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does that refer to this current updated legislation, or that dec22 updated legislation?

can never miss the sound of a v8 singing. the turbo tuner turds? they can gtfoh, lolol

until i see ranges and/or instructors blatantly taking advantage of us, i won't/can't fault them for charging for their services. they gotta keep the lights on too.

atco is where i raced everything from my grandmoms inline6 maverick or my grandpops 289 mustang to my 12 second gt to the shop's 9 second camaro.....and others in between. i only ever raced at englishtown twice. the starting line prep was significantly better than atco.....other than that, i preferred atco.

like i said....other issues.

hhmm...i read that 2nd half wrong then.......don't ask me how...but i did. that said......ok. that's fine. many of us already DID comply with the training, and it is on record with the pd's...... would be nice if we could. even if we had the numbers, there's the other issues......

if that's bruen...then all of us that got permits after that date should be good......

pl2022.......which item are they referencing with that?

even if we completed pretty much what it says in their list??

could they possibly type that out in any more of a non-direct way? sheesh......

the class i took at south Some other site with kharis sepulveda we had almost 2 hours on use of force instruction, then shot just about that exact same course of fire. i had one flyer. it pissed me off.

atco closed. for good. sucks. i don't believe there are any decent dragstrips in nj now. fuckers. https://6abc.com/atco-dragway-closing-camden-county-new-jersey-jackson-road-why-is/13520196/ i haven't been in a loooonnggg time...but it feels like a gut punch.......

on point.

actually c could use explanation too. sounds to me that they've left that open to be awfully subjective......

would this be the wrong place to ask how we clear that infestation? does this apply if we already passed those quals?

i just breezed this. that seems to be the course i shot. both times. wonder if i'm gonna still hafta do it again.....

i'm not meaning any disrespect to any police by my statement.......it's just that it's a very fair comparison.

i'll also add what i've been saying for a long time. if they want to try to force these things on us.....then the very first thing they need to do is to issue them to every single police dept in the state, from state pd on down. include ALL swat and any other special tactics teams. they ALL need to use only these things. 10 year study. if the police won't accept them, then we know dam well they're not good enough for us.

people always refer to crooked politics as "chigago" politics.....i think we need to change that to "new jersey politics" 'cause if we ain't more crooked than chigago, we're sure as shiit giving them a run for their money......

that's the thing i've been saying though.......you NEVER heard of anything with a gun in nj other than the "normal" camden/newark/trenton and other city shiit. then bruen passed. then they reluctantly started issuing carry permits. then suddenly we're hearing about "gun crimes" in nj..........and of course it seems mostly since bruen that they've been conflating gang violence with "mass" shootings. i know it sounds paranoid....but is it really?

oohh stratford's changed. a LOT. so has pine hill. and lindenwold, somerdale, magnolia......all of those once-quiet towns. there was a supposed shooting on chews landing rd in lindenwold last week. there's a super-wawa on fox's corner(laurel and chews landing) and there's been at least 3 armed car-jackings from there over the past few months. probably a couple hoodrats. lexus and beemer from the looks of the pictures..... thing is that this stuff's been happening, but never gets reported. the lindenwold shooting seems to be radio silence. never heard it on the news.

there is no such thing as handgun violence. there is only violence.

you're probably on point. i am hard on myself. especially when i feel like i've overlooked something that should have been obvious. thanks man.

that has been my point in an extended way about carry overall.......if i can trust you to walk amongst myself and those i love, then i can trust you with a firearm. if i can't trust you with a firearm, then i need to know why you're not still in prison. not you personally....."you" in a general sense, because all of these sudden news reports we're seeing of stupidity, roadraging with firearms(just saw one on nextdoor dot com right in pine hill) and "mass" shootings are not people we'd trust to walk among us.

that has been my point in an extended way about carry overall.......if i can trust you to walk amongst myself and those i love, then i can trust you with a firearm. if i can't trust you with a firearm, then i need to know why you're not still in prison. not you personally....."you" in a general sense, because all of these sudden news reports we're seeing of stupidity, roadraging with firearms(just saw one on nextdoor dot com right in pine hill) and "mass" shootings are not people we'd trust to walk among us.