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that's the thing. it's insurance and our collective over-use of it that's driven these costs up. without insurance for every little thing, we won't be insulated from the actual cost, and will accordingly price shop for the best service/value. this will have the effective result of driving costs down, as will the lack of paperwork and extra staffing associated with insurance. it will drive the costs of everything down. the industry will still make their money, but things will be more affordable. as it stands now, many people are being finacially ruined because of this mess. my friend i mentioned? he found out about his deductible(he'd made the mistake of assuming it stayed the same) when he went to the er for a mini-stroke. he had to pay for all that outta pocket. so really.....what good was his insurance?

other than catastrophic coverage, health insurance really shouldn't even exist. it drives up the price of everything. it insulates us from the true cost, which in turn causes many to abuse/over-use it....which then drives up costs. there is no reason in the world that ANYone should be using insurance of any kind for a basic doc visit. or to take little johnny to the doc 'cause he's got a runny nose and is breaking out in a rash on his arm. on the other hand, there's always the falling off the hike and breaking your leg or arm......but that comes under catastrophic. now i'll go seek cover for the incoming fire.

figured as much. one friend is a pasrts dude at autozone....has one of their supposedly better health plans. but he's got a $6k/year deductible. and it's costing him the same as the plan that he had through a previous employer that had a yearly deductible that was over 10 times lower.

what's your deductibles looking like?

haven't ordered yet.....where'd ya order yours from?

thanks again man! i think ya just saved me a grand, lololol like i said.....i ain't no fighter. by any stretch. only ever fought when no other options. given the chance, i will egress rapidly. unless there is no other choice. all i need is a headstart. and it sounds like these will give me that.

yea. it was kinda/sorta outta hand before osamacare. then osamacare came along and we went straight to plaid on our course of heading to crazy.........

thanks for that info. i was actually serious up above when i said something like "what to buy? the 300 buck cheapo or the 1300 buck leo unit?" i'm def looking at thepulse, 'cause i can afford that one. would like one of the x26's........

target practice.

getting?

IF i ever needed it, all i care about is getting a head start to bravely run away

next time my leo friend brings me a car to work on, i'll ask him if he's heard anything yet, as he does the firearms apps. in his town

yea...they'll take their time on this one. dragging their feet, etc.....what? we didn't get any notice yet.

figures

anyone tried ordering yet?

so here's the question. my kershaw holds a blade nicely. what makes a 300 buck knife worth 300 bucks if a cheap 65 buck knife functions just as well?

NOTHING in that pdf says we can't carry them, nor does it say we can't have them in our vehicles..... the big question is to buy the "cheap" 350 buck unit, or the good 1300 buck unit?

that's part of the thing with me. i thought it was expensive paying 65 bucks for my kershaw. hell if i'm gonna pay 300 bucks for something the same size. hell.....my kbar didn't cost that much.

i just carry a cheap kershaw that i bought from a snap on dealer. i've got this cool little push knife i think it's called that i may start tucking into the watch pocket of my jeans.....

at home it's been on at night for a bit now.....as in if it goes below 65 outside at night, my heater's running. on the colder mornings, i'd have liked to have run the heater at the shop...but it's still apart as vaughn services it.

couple questions. can't go through 9 pages...... it looks like within the next day or three we'll be able to buy these legally here. so......will they be over-regulated like firearms? can nj legally do that with this ruling? will we be allowed to carry them? if not, will we be allowed to keep them legally in our vehicles?

in addition to what i've typed above in red.....here's the REALLY fun part. although they've dug into your lifes history before giving you your fPid, and your first p2p's......when you decide you wanna buy another pistol? they do it all again. ain't new jersey great?

thanks man!

i forgot to mention.....pistol permits expire in 90 days. but..you can get them extended another 90

you need a fPid. firearms purchase id. you also need to apply for permit to purchase/form of registrar for any/all pistols you wish to purchase. once you've got your fpid, you can purchase long guns. that's shotguns or rifles. you need only go to the ffl and they'll run a nics check on ya. if you want to purchase pistols, those need separate permits. one for each pistol. and you can only purchase 1 pistol within a 1 month period. i've bought from jt custom guns. great guy. and you WILL learn from him. he's not just looking to get your money. look for thread in the forums. i think pk90 made it? he's got the $%^&%$ nj laws linked in there. no one here will bs ya.... listen you!! ya know how ya see me online all day? that's 'cause when i get a slim moment at the shop i pop in.....then i run back out into the shop before the boss yells at me, but leave it logged on, lololo