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You're right, there is no extractor. Just a pin that protrudes through when the slide is in the rear position. This pokes one side of the case and flips it out of the way - but it doesn't always work.

The tip up barrel is interesting. They have a reputaiton about being very finicky about ammo and it's true. Mine will stove pipe, fail to extract, or otherwise jamb on every other or every third round if I'm not using CCI mini mags or Blazer. I've taken it out to the range several times and one or two people will try it and after 3 or 4 shots we just put it away. With the two brands of ammo mentioned above, it will still have some sort of failure every couple of magazines. I'm keeping mine but it's not reliable enough to be useful if you actually needed it.

So...the president of the NJPBA, representing the official position of NJ's police officers, expressed support for this bill because he was afraid of losing his position as president of the PBA? What if I publicly endorsed violating other civil rights to keep my job? Should I get a pass?

I checked the MD portal a few times, but not every week. If there was a status change to "assigned" or something similar, I never saw it there. 9/20 applied and fingerprinted on the same day 10/7 rec'd letter that my fingerprint check passed 12/1 rec'd email that my application " has been granted final disposition" and a letter via mail would follow. Checked the portal on the same day and it said "approved". 12/10 rec'd permit via mail.

MD Permit: Applied and fingerprinted 9/31/22 Issued 12/1/22 Rec'd in mail 12/10/32. Something like 71 or 72 days to issue. In related NJ news... I applied for my NJ Permit on 8/6 Rec'd an email from the Superintendent's office that said it was sent to the court on 11/15 (after I sent a letter to his office). Somehow, it took over three weeks for the court to receive it on 12/7 (suspicious) I'm anticipating a hearing the third week of January. If that's correct, I'll be at about 130 days for NJ.

Not all churches are pro gun control. The trustees at my church, and a few other people are discussing passing a resolution to allow carry in our church when the new gun law passes and express permission is required. Waiting to see exactly what the law says before we act. Lots of churches and some denominations believe they are to control the people. A few believe they are to serve the people and trust their congregation as responsible adults.

Followup: Received an email from NJSP today. The email says that my application was sent to the courts 1 day before I wrote my letter. Quite a coincidence.

I filed my application through NJSP. I'm on day 117 and I haven't heard anything. I sent a letter to the Superintendent of NJSP on day 102 requesting an update on the status of my application and informing the superintendent that my application was deemed approved on day 61. The letter was picked up in Trenton two weeks ago. I can track the letter online but oddly, the return receipt was never sent back to me by USPS. But I have proof that it was picked up. I have received no response to my letter, just like I received no response to my emails I had sent to my local NJSP station before I sent the letter. I plan to contact the court to inform them that my application has been approved by the NJSP in early October. (61 days as per 2C:58-4). And asking the court to approve my application even if the NJSP won't comply with the law. I'm looking for some guidance in doing that. I don't mind doing the research but I don't even know where to start. Anybody know the legal process to notify the courts that it's time to approve my permit or at least point me to some document where I can figure out the process for myself? Thanks in advance.

There is no way an intruder broke into the house of the second most powerful politician in America and attacked somebody with a hammer. I don't know what happened but I am absolutely sure it's something worse and the press is lying to us...again.

Bruen was June 23rd Took everyone at least a month to get their quals done and fill out the form so that's the end of July. The PD's get 60 days and some are taking longer so that's the end of September before permits started hitting the courts. Not surprised there were only 1500 in August. Giving the stats for August is intentionally misleading.

NJSP was 8 weeks recently. As I understand the process: The background check takes minutes. The mental health check is typically a few days but when they're backed up and depending on the county could take longer. The reference check is as long as the officer doing the checks decides to wait. Everything could typically be turned around in a week. If it's much longer than that, it's your PD that is delaying.

I know someone who has his in-person hearing in Cumberland on Thursday of this week.

I think everyone who isn't a police officer should be treated the same according to the law - no matter what their former career was.

The trooper estimated that I was the 20th applicant at my local barracks. It took NJSP 73 days to call my references and now it goes to Trenton for a review. Not exactly prompt or efficient but I will agree they have been polite.

Yes, but I thought you were very early. I haven't heard of any NJSP permits in the last couple of months. Wondering if the order was given to stop approving after the first batch went out.

An update on my permit through NJSP Bridgeton. I haven't received the permit yet but have the first indication that something is happening. The timeline: 8/5 - application submitted 8/6 - Day 0 - fingerprints completed in PA 9/5 - Day 30 - emailed trooper to confirm prints had been received. There were rumors online that out-of-state prints weren't making it to NJSP. No reply to email - which is not typical for this trooper. He's always been very helpful in the past. 9/17 - Day 42 - emailed trooper again to confirm prints were received. No reply 10/18 - Day 73 - my references received a phone call. Trooper said he was doing background checks "as the last step" or "to finish up" my application. Not sure of his exact language. I still haven't heard of any permits coming out of NJSP since the very beginning of this. I know they get sent to Trenton next. Don't know if Trenton is under orders to just sit on them indefinitely or if they start to move toward the court now.

Have any permits been issued through the NJSP yet? I haven't seen anyone post here, facebook pages, or reddit that they received a permit and applied through the state police. My permit has been in for 2 months and I haven't heard a thing from them. The trooper at my local barracks who handles firearm permits has always been really good to work with. Always responsive, answers phone calls and emails, keeps me informed of the process, and has generally been helpful. I emailed him twice in the last month and no reply. Wondering if he's just overworked or if a directive not to answer questions went out. Anybody have any insight into what's happening with permits submitted to NJSP?

That makes them one of the first applicants. Now that there are more applications being processed, I wonder if it will slow down.

I've read the statue over and over. I'm not bad with words but one part confuses me. On a quick read through, I thought it meant that you can carry any gun as long as you own the gun but on the 10th read, it seems to say something else. The last part confuses me: "the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual legal holder of the permit". WHICH IS NOT: the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual legal owner of the gun. Holder of permit...not owner of gun. It reads to me that the permit is only valid for the person who owns the permit and says nothing at all about who owns the gun. But it seems so obvious that somebody else can't use your permit that they wouldn't have put that in the law. I need a grammar expert who remembers how to diagram sentences to clear this up for me.

I don't see how it's illegal. Admin code says the judge can issue a restricted type permit. Wait...let me change that... illegal constitutionally since it's an infringement to the right to bear arms. but not illegal by NJ law.

It matters because a judge can issue a restricted type permit that lists the guns you can carry. It's too long to cut and paste the whole thing again but there are two sections of the law that matter here. Google NJSA 2C:58-4(a) --- and --- NJAC 13:54-2.7(a) and (b). Several instructors are letting you "qualify" with multiple firearms if you shoot just one. Others want to see you shoot each one before they will sign off that you can demonstrate "familiarity with safe handling and use" with each gun. Since different guns are operated differently I think this is reasonable.

Somebody here posted that Shooters now only allowed one firearm on the qualification form. Something about the qualification being rejected by the PD if more than one gun was on the form - not sure I have that exactly right. Just curious what the details were. Was that discussed at all during your qualification?

NJ does not require concealed carry. Open carry (with a carry permit) is legal. You don't need to keep your gun hidden at all - although I personally think doing so is a good idea.

I think any rim fire is too little gun but I understand the small, frail, older female thing too. Maybe a compromise? .22Mag?

Not finding bump stocks useful and thinking it's acceptable to make them Illegal to own are two different things.