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I was in a gun shop the other night. The dealer and I were chatting about the state of NJ and he said that a lot of guys were contacting the AGs office when they weren't getting their permits within the statutory 30 days and were getting the permits approved immediately, even without the background checks being done. I haven't heard this before and I though that there was case law that made it official that the 30 day requirement could be ignored by local PDs and the state. Anybody else heard this rumor that a call to the AG's office gets the process done?

We've done some getting ready. In the past couple of years we have added: Generator - although if we're out of power for more than a few days, gasoline would likely become a problem so the generator is just for short term power outages. Gasoline - always 15 gallons on hand plus whatever is in the vehicles. I can fuel a vehicle if we need to go or run the generator for a few days. Heat - we have an oil furnace (no gas lines) and with a generator or small inverter can make enough electric to run the burner and tiny circulating pump. I also have a wood stove in my garage that could be moved inside if needed. Water - I have a hand pitcher pump that I can mount on top of my well casing and can get unlimited water. Food - We keep a couple of months of canned and boxed foods on hand. We typically eat out of the pantry and shop to re-stock the pantry. I also live in a rural area and grew up on a farm. If we needed to go 100% off grid, I think we could grow and hunt enough to keep us going indefinitely although it would become a full time job to do so.

I work with a woman that was interviewed for a job in Gloucester County several years ago. One of her references was a judge and he made a phone call to help her get the interview. After the interview, her reference, the judge, called her at home and told her she would need to change her party affiliation to democrat if she wanted to be considered. Whoever interviewed her had pulled her voter registration and called the judge to let him know the candidate was the wrong party to get a job with the county. My friend refused and of course was not hired.

Totally depends on the kid. My daughter and I started shooting bb guns when she was 4. She was calm and could listen to directions. She was even a pretty good shot...for being 4 years old. My son just started shooting a bb gun with me and he's 6. A really great kid but his mind is all over the place. He's a different personality than my daugher was and he just wasn't ready to pay attention as much as I want him to pay attention if he's shooting. He's ready now. For a 6 year old, a bb gun might as well be a 50bmg. He's thrilled to shoot it and very proud when he gets a shot on the target. Both also shot .22 very soon after shooting the bb gun with me helping them hold it. My daughter's 13 now and her interest in guns has waned. She just rolls her eyes when I come home with a new gun.

Out of State LEO asked the NJSP about carrying hollow point ammo in NJ got this reply: As per state statute, based on the reason for your visit (vacation), and as you will not be engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S. 2C:39-6, you are prohibited from carrying hollow point ammunition in your handgun while in New Jersey. Be advised that the Association of Firearm and Toolmark Examiners (A.F.T.E.)define “hollow point” as “a bullet with a cavity in the nose to facilitate expansion.” According to the New Jersey State Police Ballistics Unit, three alternative rounds to a hollow point are identified by the Ballistics Unit as follows: Hornady Critical Defense Federal Expanding Full Metal Jacket Corbon / Glaser PowR Ball Each use a different technology to facilitate expansion and do not have a “hollow” cavity. In the case of the PowR Ball and the Critical Defense, each uses a polymer to fill the “cavity,” and therefore are considered to be Expanding Type bullets falling short of a “hollow point.” Original email here: http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i428/krdshrk2/njsp_hollowpoint.jpg

Confirmed by the Supreme Court in DC. v. Heller. Justice Scalia wrote the opinion of the court and said: "...Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997) , and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001) , the Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."

"All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.” I transported a handgun home from the shop in a tied plastic bag a few days ago. Bought a gun and ammo. Dealer put the gun in one plastic bag, the ammo in the other. I drive a pickup with no cap, the gun and ammo went on the passenger side floor with the bags tied shut. I'm not suggesting you do this because if I had been stopped by a clairvoyant cop that could tell what was in the bag, I probably would have been arrested. But my attorney would have explained that I was following the law to the letter.

Every firearm owner should read the law for themselves. The relevant sections are NJSA 2C:39-5 and 6. I'm not a lawyer. Read it for yourself or ask your attorney for his opinion. Here's what the law says: NJSA 2C:39-5 lists what you can’t possess in NJ. The is the list of things you can’t transport (or even possess) is: Machine gun Handgun Rifles and shotguns (without obtaining a firearms perchaser identification card) A loaded rifle or shotgun Other weapons Any weapon on school grounds including imitation weapons An assault firearm NJSA 2C:39-5 sections e and f lists the exemptions to the rule above. This section tells you when you can transport and it only applies to handguns, rifles, and shotguns. If you follow the rules in section g below, it is legal to transport handguns, rifles, and shotguns: Between a gun shop and you home or business, between your home and business, between your home or business and a gunsmith or between residences if you are moving. To a rifle range if you’re a member and the range has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent To hunt with a valid hunting license To or from any exhibition or display of firearms (there is a list of organizations that can host) as long as the superintendent has been notified of the event at least 30 days prior Finally, section g tells you how you can transport. "All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.”

California with the most social programs to help felons transition into society has a recidivism rate of 70%. In Arizona where they stick you in the desert for your sentence has a recidivism rate of 25%. Don't make prison fun and comfortable, people will just come back.

Other groups that are racist: physicists - "black hole" farmers - "yellow squash" hoteliers - "red roof inns" cooks - "brownies" I guess I'm just too stupid to pretend to be so sophisticated and enlightened.

I used to "brown bag" my lunch every day. I did not know until now that I was a racist.

Ridiculous that we're so afraid of gun ownership that we're even afraid to do things that are perfectly legal like a private sale. This state is insane and they've obviously managed to break us all.

I'm always surprised how many people are driven by emotion and have no time for facts.

As I understand the decision, it is okay to violate a constitutional right as long as (1) you've been violating that right for long enough - "long standing tradition" or (2) it's for the greater good - "intermediate scrutiny". I can't believe they would even say this, the can't possibly believe it to be true.

Cops got a call, they investigated, found no crime and left. Good policing. I'm also not opposed to the actions of the kid with the gun except that he was intentionally trying to set the cops up. Carrying a gun to condition people to think it's normal is weird and probably ineffective. In fact it probably hurts more than it hurts but I'm not hating the guy for just doing something that he thinks will help. Too bad he's too sure of himself to listen to wise advice though.

Some here have contacted their state senators for assistance and gotten someone from the NJSP to at least call them to keep them informed.

How far does this requirement go? Are Nebraska FFLs required to use the NJSP NICS instead of federal NICS? Will Nebraska FFLs know to ask for my FID and will they fill out whatever paperwork is required by NJ? And how does a Nebraska FFL know what the rules are in NJ? I'm only picking Nebraska as a generic non NJ border state.

I bought a shotgun years ago in DE. As I recall, I needed to show my NJ FID to buy it. I'm not sure why DE cares about NJ law but obviously states must care where you are from. What happens when I'm in a state far enough away that they are not familiar with NJ laws? Are they still required to follow NJ law and ask for a NJ FID if I have a NJ drivers license. I'll be traveling this summer and may want to do some shopping when I'm out. I realize hand guns require FFL transfer but I'm wondering about long guns.

Bail it out, print the money to do it, de-value the dollar, start hyper inflation, tank the economy! Lets get on with it. Communism always fails and it will here too - lets get the difficult transition of becoming a constitutional republic (again) out of the way.

I got my FID when I was a college freshmen. That was a looooong time ago so I don't remember what I put on the form but not having a job didn't stop the process. You'll be fine.

May be legal once you're camping but it does not fall into one of the exemptions that would allow you to transport it to the campsite in NJ. Out of state with a ccw - go for it. With a FID, you can transport a shotgun within NJ if you follow the rules- just as good for home defense....er...camper defense.

Not only that, the steering wheel's on the wrong side!

I think the delays come from two places: (1) local barracks doing reference checks and mental history checks and then (2) the black hole in trenton. I've heard of local barracks taking 2 months to do their part. That wasn't my experience. My "sent to Trenton" date was only 2 weeks after I submitted and it still took 4 months. I just applied for a second round of P2Ps. Dropped off the paperwork on a Sunday and my references received calls Monday afternoon. We'll see if anything in trenton is going faster.

I just did mine through the Bridgeton NJSP barracks. I called once a month to follow up and the officer I talked to was always very open about the process. From our many conversations, this is what I believe the process to be: Local barracks checks references by phone and submits the paperwork to some other agency for the mental history check. Once these come back clear, the paperwork goes onto a black hole in Trenton for the criminal background check to be done. It seems like this process takes about 3 months and even the officers at the local barracks aren't sure what happens in this black hole. All they can tell you at this point is that it's waiting in Trenton. He did tell me that there are 8 desks in Trenton that process firearm permits and each desk has a stack of hundreds of applications on it. How fast the permit approved is partially determined by who's desk you end up on. During one of my monthly calls, the trooper asked if he had already told me my permits had been approved. He hadn't. Apparently he somehow received notice that they were approved and was going to call as soon as they were delivered to the local barracks. A trooper drives to Trenton twice a week to to a "mail run" and my permits should have been included but mine never arrived. He called the black hole in Trenton and was able to get my permit delivered the next day - 2 weeks after approval. I don't think the local barracks have any real information on what happens in Trenton and all they can do is wait.

Congratulations on the great exposure. I have a general question about army navy stores if you don't mind my asking. When I was a kid, army navy stores were 100% military surplus. This was just as the Vietnam war was ending and I assumed that all the gear was stuff that had been manufactured for the war but wasn't needed. I would guess that half the stuff in the store was new and half had seen some use but it was all military gear. army navy stores today have much less military gear. I'm just curios if my theory about Vietnam is right or if something else changed with the supply of militarily surplus items. Not a real important question but something I've always wondered every time I've been in an army navy store.