Another idiot who thinks he looks good by trying to make cops look bad. Great job by the cops.

 

IDIOT - "that's not an ammo bag"

 

LEO- "a man purse whatever!"

 

Too funny!

 

These are the guys who make gun owners look bad. What an idiot.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e5a_1375250050

great officers....

Never mind that the guy looks like the president of the Jared laughner fan club.

Same d-bag kid from other videos.

If you're going to make youtube videos, at least sound well versed. Kid sounds 17 and like he just got turned down for prom.

If you're going to make youtube videos, at least sound well versed. Kid sounds 17 and like he just got turned down for prom.

True.

These ass hats keep giving the antis more ammo to use on law abiding gun owners. Just because somethings legal does not mean it makes sense to walk around with a rifle for a PR stunt.

 

If i were to encounter an idiot like this i might as a civilian follow him around just to verify hes not a mental case.

The number of genuinely stupid people in the world never ceases to amaze me.

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein

I too would follow him for a bit but I don't agree that he makes it worse for us.  You are thinking too much like a person from NJ....respectfully...

 

I have lived all over this country and the NE/California is surreal in it's paranoia.  I think we actually need to see more guns so people are not so damn skittish.

 

Think about this and how far down we've fallen as a country.  When we were kids, we could go all over the town, get scraped up, only see our parents for dinner and then back out to God knows where.  Today, little Johnny falls on the soccer field and it's episode of hysterics for the adults.  People are too skittish, too scared, not versed enough in the ways of the world and more.

 

more guns in eyes and hands of the public and maybe people will stop being so damn paranoid.

These ass hats keep giving the antis more ammo to use on law abiding gun owners. Just because somethings legal does not mean it makes sense to walk around with a rifle for a PR stunt.

 

If i were to encounter an idiot like this i might as a civilian follow him around just to verify hes not a mental case.

Yep...just because you can doesn't give you the right to be a raging jackass...He was looking for a fight....BIG FAIL loser... If those cops were drawn away from an area where something criminal was actually going on and couldn't respond in a timely matter and someone was hurt due to that fact....that's on that kid

Ok here is my problem. Yes he has every right to do that. Is it practical ...no. To me sometimes bringing attention is not the best thing. People might see this and find out its legal. At this point you know you can always find enough jack offs to support something and next thing you know open carry is outlawed.

I too would follow him for a bit but I don't agree that he makes it worse for us.  You are thinking too much like a person from NJ....respectfully...

 

I have lived all over this country and the NE/California is surreal in it's paranoia.  I think we actually need to see more guns so people are not so damn skittish.

 

Think about this and how far down we've fallen as a country.  When we were kids, we could go all over the town, get scraped up, only see our parents for dinner and then back out to God knows where.  Today, little Johnny falls on the soccer field and it's episode of hysterics for the adults.  People are too skittish, too scared, not versed enough in the ways of the world and more.

 

more guns in eyes and hands of the public and maybe people will stop being so damn paranoid.

 

Thinking like a person from jersey has nothing to do with it.  If this guy had a pistol and had a CCW it would not phase me at all. There is no practical reason for anyone in any state to just walk around town with a rifle strapped to his or her back.

 

If they were walking along a country road during hunting season i can at least justify it.  Walking in town is not the norm ANYWHERE except a war zone, it does make people think us gun folk are insane. 

 

If pointing out something that's out of place and questioning it makes me skittish or scared then call me chicken shit steve.

Kudos to cop #2

 

 

#1 spent a little more then with him then needed and he felt he just had to interject his viewpoint but hey, no harm no foul.

Thinking like a person from jersey has nothing to do with it.  If this guy had a pistol and had a CCW it would not phase me at all. There is no practical reason for anyone in any state to just walk around town with a rifle strapped to his or her back.

 

If they were walking along a country road during hunting season i can at least justify it.  Walking in town is not the norm ANYWHERE except a war zone, it does make people think us gun folk are insane. 

 

If pointing out something that's out of place and questioning it makes me skittish or scared then call me chicken shit steve.

huh? Do u know how many places allow this without issue? Where u live helps frame your view

Ok here is my problem. Yes he has every right to do that. Is it practical ...no. To me sometimes bringing attention is not the best thing. People might see this and find out its legal. At this point you know you can always find enough jack offs to support something and next thing you know open carry is outlawed.

 

And after that they sue in court, and the courts hand down a decision. I think that is where people want to go with this, 

ok ban this kids youtube account immediately...toolbox

So you guys are calling this guy an idiot, jackass, whatever.

 

He is none of the above. He is an ACTIVIST. He knows exactly what he is doing that is why he films the whole thing. WIll it scare people? Hell yeah, because people have been conditioned to be scared of scary black rifles. But he is out to make a point. It may or may not be the right way but that is the mission. But the cops know about these kinds of people. There are memos that go out to the departments about open carry activists. They want to discourage it that is why they stop them and give them a hard time, because people see "OMG he has a gun!!!" and call 911. They get fed up of the calls. 

 

Now consider this, people open carry handguns too. They get similarly stopped and questioned by the police. Now what do you think of that? Open carry is legal in many states. In some places like Utah, nobody will bat an eye unless they are from out of town. 

huh? Do u know how many places allow this without issue? Where u live helps frame your view

 

I was not questioning the legality just the need to open carry a rifle. The law is the law. if i lived in PA, UT or NJ i still do not see the need to open carry a rifle unless your attempting to make a statement.

So you guys are calling this guy an idiot, jackass, whatever.

 

He is none of the above. He is an ACTIVIST. He knows exactly what he is doing that is why he films the whole thing. WIll it scare people? Hell yeah, because people have been conditioned to be scared of scary black rifles. But he is out to make a point. It may or may not be the right way but that is the mission. But the cops know about these kinds of people. There are memos that go out to the departments about open carry activists. They want to discourage it that is why they stop them and give them a hard time, because people see "OMG he has a gun!!!" and call 911. They get fed up of the calls. 

 

Now consider this, people open carry handguns too. They get similarly stopped and questioned by the police. Now what do you think of that? Open carry is legal in many states. In some places like Utah, nobody will bat an eye unless they are from out of town. 

 

Yes he a professional agitator. No different then the LEFTS professionals.  I think it hurts our cause more then helping.   The more people that see this kinda stuff the more people will vote and support more control.  If people were not bothered by it 911 would not bet getting the calls.

 

again its legal but stupid. There is no Practical need to open carry a rifle.

Cops got a call, they investigated, found no crime and left.  Good policing.  I'm also not opposed to the actions of the kid with the gun except that he was intentionally trying to set the cops up.  Carrying a gun to condition people to think it's normal is weird and probably ineffective.  In fact it probably hurts more than it hurts but I'm not hating the guy for just doing something that he thinks will help.  Too bad he's too sure of himself to listen to wise advice though.

Thats definitely a man purse .. Lol tactical man purse...

Yes he a professional agitator. No different then the LEFTS professionals.  I think it hurts our cause more then helping.   The more people that see this kinda stuff the more people will vote and support more control.  If people were not bothered by it 911 would not bet getting the calls.

 

again its legal but stupid. There is no Practical need to open carry a rifle.

"You don't need 30 round clips to hunt deer"

 

Thats exactly what you sound like. Its legal he WANTS to carry it.

That is all that is required. You don't like it don't do it. But knock off the sanctimonious attirude.

 

PS The cop acted in a very professional manner and dealt with the "situation" appropriately in my opinion.

"You don't need 30 round clips to hunt deer"

 

Thats exactly what you sound like. Its legal he WANTS to carry it.

That is all that is required. You don't like it don't do it. But knock off the sanctimonious attirude.

 

PS The cop acted in a very professional manner and dealt with the "situation" appropriately in my opinion.

 

+1

the problem I have with the kid is he tries too hard... 

 

someone called the police.. 

they responded...

they did what they needed to do..

 

he wanted to go off on a tangent to them to engage them... and honestly they were not interested...if he made an effort to talk to people in a more human like manner it would help us.. but people are just going to view this kid as an asshole.. and when assholes represent you.. it tarnishes your name as well....

 

I am all for open carry... even open carry of a military rifle.. even open carry to prove a point.. but when you engage people try not to sound like an idiot that spends his days in his grandmothers basement learning law on the interwebs.. 

the problem I have with the kid is he tries too hard...

 

someone called the police..

they responded...

they did what they needed to do..

 

he wanted to go off on a tangent to them to engage them... and honestly they were not interested...if he made an effort to talk to people in a more human like manner it would help us.. but people are just going to view this kid as an asshole.. and when assholes represent you.. it tarnishes your name as well....

 

I am all for open carry... even open carry of a military rifle.. even open carry to prove a point.. but when you engage people try not to sound like an idiot that spends his days in his grandmothers basement learning law on the interwebs..

This

the problem I have with the kid is he tries too hard... 

 

 

I am all for open carry... even open carry of a military rifle.. even open carry to prove a point.. but when you engage people try not to sound like an idiot that spends his days in his grandmothers basement learning law on the interwebs.. 

 

Yes...trying too hard is the issue. Also, learning laws on the interwebs is another problem. Because nobody here talks on or learns about laws on the interwebs. 

 

So despite your own admission that you have open carried a rifle or to prove a point, and despite that I know for a fact you spend time on the internet learning about laws, you take issue with someone else doing the same? I can't help but find that hypocritical. I'm sorry, but not everybody acts exactly the same or handles situations in the same manner as you. In fact, you don't even have to agree with or like those actions. I know I wouldn't act the same way as him in a like situation, but I fail to see how it is a problem. It isn't like he is being aggressive and violent.

Yes...trying too hard is the issue. Also, learning laws on the interwebs is another problem. Because nobody here talks on or learns about laws on the interwebs. 

 

So despite your own admission that you have open carried a rifle or to prove a point, and despite that I know for a fact you spend time on the internet learning about laws, you take issue with someone else doing the same? I can't help but find that hypocritical. I'm sorry, but not everybody acts exactly the same or handles situations in the same manner as you. In fact, you don't even have to agree with or like those actions. I know I wouldn't act the same way as him in a like situation, but I fail to see how it is a problem. It isn't like he is being aggressive and violent.

 

I am just telling you I do not want that guy to represent me.. just like you may not want me to represent you... the cop stopped the guy and asked him questions... the only mistake the first cop made was even being baited into his nonsense and telling the guy about mass shootings and all that.. its moot.. 

 

he needed just to say "I am investigating a 911 call about a man with a gun... I am glad to see you are not up to anything bad.. have a good day" the second he let himself get sucked into the nonsense the kid had to babble about how there was no cause to talk to him.. 

 

walk around with a gun.. which you KNOW will get people to confront you..

tell them there is no need to confront you... 

 

makes no sense to me.. 

 

and the nonsense he says to try to "sound smart" just makes him sound like a moron..

"just determining the professional constitutional of officers"

the officer then clearly explains to him WHY people would maybe be calling the police and then he says 

"so why are you out here"

and it just goes downhill more from there.. thank god the second cop shows up.. 

 

then say you are doing it to make people notice and appreciate the law.. basically admit you are doing it for attention.. THEN claim you do NOT want attention...

 

 

 

and lastly.. YES I learned the law.. and YES I learned it to help educate others.. but I don't do it like some weirdo.. I have normal conversations with people.. 

I am just telling you I do not want that guy to represent me.. just like you may not want me to represent you... the cop stopped the guy and asked him questions... the only mistake the first cop made was even being baited into his nonsense and telling the guy about mass shootings and all that.. its moot.. 

 

he needed just to say "I am investigating a 911 call about a man with a gun... I am glad to see you are not up to anything bad.. have a good day" the second he let himself get sucked into the nonsense the kid had to babble about how there was no cause to talk to him.. 

 

walk around with a gun.. which you KNOW will get people to confront you..

tell them there is no need to confront you... 

 

makes no sense to me.. 

 

and the nonsense he says to try to "sound smart" just makes him sound like a moron..

"just determining the professional constitutional of officers"

the officer then clearly explains to him WHY people would maybe be calling the police and then he says 

"so why are you out here"

and it just goes downhill more from there.. thank god the second cop shows up.. 

 

then say you are doing it to make people notice and appreciate the law.. basically admit you are doing it for attention.. THEN claim you do NOT want attention...

 

 

 

and lastly.. YES I learned the law.. and YES I learned it to help educate others.. but I don't do it like some weirdo.. I have normal conversations with people.. 

 

Fair points. 

 

Maybe that is a normal conversation for him though.