JohnnyB

That sucks! We had one down here in South Jersey a few years back! I was with my wife at a local bank talking about refinancing a loan. A loud bang and the whole bank was shaking! The banker looked scared and my wife yelled "what's that"! I calmly answered with a big smile on my face, it's an earthquake, she yelled back "shut up! no it's not!!!" I just laughed my ass off! To me it was great fun! I had friends who were driving and did not really feel it and were pissed that they missed it!

You as the buyer have to obtain the P2P! There is no place on the P2P form for the seller's DL number. Just buy the damn gun if you want it!!!!!! You are making a mountain out of molehill!!! You are within the law to make the purchase! take down all the info he provides! If something is wrong, they will go after him, not you!

The seller is not required to have a FPID card or an SBI number.

Ryan, The facts of the story of your friend's situation are interesting a make a good case as to how the PRNJ gun laws can screw you! However, I would venture a guess that the OP is not in a situation as you outlined above!!! The story you tell I believe 100% because I know you personally and trust you. but the extenuating circumstances in your friend's case are most definitely not the norm and relating this story in this situation only serves to exacerbate the OP's obvious paranoia over such a trivial matter as replacing a muzzle device! I have seen many A2s on guns at NJ ranges! I bought an AR in NJ that had an A2 on it. I just got rid of it and replaced it with a brake! No harm, no foul!!! The OP needs to do what he feels he needs to do! He can neuter every AR lower he has and give the fire control groups to a friend but If he is not in imminent danger of a police raid, I as others in this thread recommend he not make a big deal out of this and just change the birdcage to a brake and have it properly welded. No harm, no foul! How many of us carry a rifle or shotgun in our trunk, unloaded but with ammo also in the trunk on a daily basis??? This is the right of every FPID holder in NJ but how many exercise this right? My FPID card states "Is hereby granted permission to purchase and carry rifles and shotguns" And even if your FPID omits that statement, it is still your right! NJ just does not want to advertise that fact so they removed that verbiage from the newer FPID cards! I am a law abiding citizen of the state of New Jersey and I obey all statutes and laws pertaining to guns and otherwise! I refuse however to succumb to total paranoia though! I let a combination of the law and plain old common sense guide me!!!

I believe having a valid Nj FPID is a prerequisite to obtaining a P2P! The FPID assigns you an SBI number which you must have before you can apply for a P2P! You can apply for both at the same time or for just a FPID for long arms. You can't apply for a P2P without a FPID though! Someone will correct me if I am wrong here for sure! The onus is on the purchaser! The seller need not provide more than his SSN, Name, address, DOB and should show an ID verifying he/she is in fact who the say they are! In the end, the state does not care so much where the gun came from. They want to know who has it now!!!!

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This is the site I got them from and they are sold out.

Just between you and me, I also like Abba when I am in the mood for oldies! Kinda played out though! I can't stand country music except for some of the old standards. I have a gas grill and a dirty Infinity G37! I also wear shoes that need shining, wear a suit everyday and don't have a truck. I clean my guns every time I use them, I make the time for it! We have an awful lot in common don't we? I am the service manager for a copier company so I need to dress nice so my technicians will follow my lead. So far, for the last 15 years it has not worked!!! Thanks for the reminder of keeping the cars full! Such a simple common sense thing, yet my wife fills to 1/2 tank, waits for the "E" then puts in another 20 bucks! I don't pay for my gas, my company does, yet I wait until I am running on fumes then fill up with super! I am also the guy who has 30 gallons plus in my shed at all times for my generator and rotates it out in my wife's Nissan every 2 months since regular gas ain't going in my G37!!! We have both pledged to keep a full tank at all times! Let's see how long that lasts!!!

I can understand why many would be hesitant to really challenge their local PD! They feel that if they make waves, the CLEO will retaliate by making them wait even longer! I feel they can be challenged in a polite and friendly way and the person making the challenge should bring the paperwork to back him or her up! A copy of the NJ Statute would be a good start.

Nope! $2.99 shipping and not too far from you!

I got mine last Wednesday I think. They seem great and hold a solid 15! They are out of stock and from what I read in another thread, no more are coming in. I wish I had grabbed more as well!

I thought they had 90 days to act or it automatically approved per statute. Or am I confusing this with a CCW permit?

I was over at the Oaks show yesterday. I aint never seen so dang many black rifles in one place at a time. Them confounded black rifles scare me with all them parts and clips that hold a hunderd bullets.I jest don't get it! I did buy me a nlice used 410 jest like my Paw had when he was a yungin and a couple boxes of shells for my clay shootin! Gonna have me a reel good time with that old 410 and the best part is I dont fret no trouble with the law cous taint nobody a commin to take my old 410, theys only hankerin to get yall with them there crazy black guns! I use to have me a pistol a colt I think with a cobra snake on the side but I done dropped it in the creek huntin catfish. Twernt no way I was goin after it couse I cant swim worth a darn. Neveer did hit any cats with the danged thing. I spose it was jest ment for killin snakes anyhow. As I recalect, I done lost many a gun in that stupid creek and only ever got me a few catfish that way. Good eatin when you can get em. Enough with the funnin already! PM'd

Now that's funny!!!!

In my town, my references have never even been contacted! That Notary crap requires your references to go to a Notary and pay a fee! That is total B.S.!!! Also illegal!!! Contact ANJRPC will set them straight!

Where is the flyer so I can print it!!!!

Thanks OP! I got a couple!

I know very little about optics but I have this Trijicon on one of my ARs. Is this a good choice and a quality optic?? Mine has the reference to the Corinthians Bible verse. http://www.webyshops.com/brand/Trijicon-Reflex-Sights-brand/TRIJICON-Reflex-1x24-Sight-4-5-MOA-Amber-Dot-Flattop-Mnt-Polarizing-Filter-Dust-Cover-RX01NSN.html

That's because you bought the last one. Sold out now!

Ah yes, The zombie statute!

LOL, This is the first time I quoted myself but I think it applies here! Kevin, You were very eloquent in your above post! I agree with you 110% However, you can't change the mind of a liberal troll with the facts and logic! All you do is end up with a brain aneurism like I have from years of trying!!! Take my advice, ignore the trolls! Don't let them get to you! BTW, Do you think I could use my brain aneurism as justifiable need??? One punch from a "knockout gamer" would most likely kill me! Due to it's location in my brain, Surgery to fix it carries a huge risk of death! I seriously never thought of this before but I wonder if my condition would satisfy justifiable need! I am sure I could get a letter from my neurosurgeon!

Most of us here in Jersey have no "bug out" option! I know I don't! To an extent, my home is defensible! If I have to leave my home, I am screwed!!! Besides, in the PRNJ you can't carry a loaded gun off of your property anyway! In a true SHTF situation I agree that there will be no law enforcement as we know it but still, in this heavily populated state where you most likely live on an acre of land or less! Where the hell can you bug out to??? Your uncles 50 acres in upstate PA??? You are assuming the roads will be open and safe to travel without being shot! Not to mention the Sunoco station will be closed! For most of us, "Bug in" is the only option!!!

What was the shipping charge for 2 mags???

I am sorry to inform your that the request you made of member Oleg is not reasonable due to the fact that it is anatomically impossible for him to comply due to a low IQ, lack of common sense and the fact that CRAZY GLUE was used in the original insertion process! I crack myself up sometimes!!!!!!

As Troy pointed out, this thread was started here so we can't blame the mods for this one! Troy moved this to current law discussion so in fact it is out in the open for now! As long as we behave! I think many of us post here are assuming it will end up here anyway! I think the OP's should think first before posting here!