JohnnyB

You just can't let it go, can you!!!!

Not a one, I promise you! I did however notice some crumbs on the carpet of the patrol car! Could have been planted there by a rogue LEO looking to set up the really nice and professional Leo that I transacted with.

I forgot to mention, I watched in my rear view mirror, he never left his car to go for a doughnut!!! Go figure! For Newtonian, my company had a service call 6 miles from the crime scene, so all my gas and tolls were paid as was my salary for the drive up and back. I paid no sales tax, no FFL fee and no NICS fee. I got a MINT pistol in the box with 5 new factory mags and all of the original accessories and paperwork, including the lock and the red zip tie for a great price!

I am careful and follow the law always. I ask questions here that some may poke fun at but I just want to make sure I do the right thing. However, I am not going to spend my life looking over my shoulder in fear for the rest of my life!!! Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid Step out of line, the men come and take you away

I committed no crime! My IDs were checked by the on duty LEO seller, he showed me his pink copy from when he first purchased, he filled out his portion of my P2P, I signed, he stated his responsibility for each copy, gave me the pink. I drove straight home and all is well. The seller has a great reputation on another NJ forum. This was NOT a Craigslist deal!!! Great timing! I was in the middle of this post when you posted!

The LEO

Oh that would be sweet for me! Perhaps I could request that from my local PD! The second my wife sees an envelope for our local PD, her antennae goes up and she watches my every move!

I agree on the bore snake! I do have a few. I do realize that I could sneak a new gun into the house without my wife noticing. Problem is, I can't lie!!! She gets the mail before I come home and sees my P2Ps! She knows when these hit our mailbox that I have evil intentions!!! I tried to to tell her that if I don't use them and they expire, that I can't ever get another one. She did not fall for that one either! My Brother-in-law, who also has more that two guns, always told me, "buy the guns, bring them in when she is not at home, even if she sees them, so she gets pissed and does no not speak to you for a week or so, she will forget and get over it but in the end you win since you still have your new guns and now she is talking to you! He is right, I need to learn to lie despite my upbringing! He is also right about bringing a few new guns home and after a week of silence, you still have the guns! Life is indeed good!!!! I also come home with a bag from a store in my hands and she will say "what did you buy me??" My answer is most often "more bullets dear". That pisses her of as well. Also when FedEx or UPS leaves a box at our door that she can't pick up she gets pissed since she knows it must be more ammo! If I was smart, which I obviously am not, I would have all this crap delivered to my business then transfer the goods into my stash after she goes to sleep!

Cool! But read the Beer issue in my post above yours. I know my virgin Mosin will one day see corrosive ammo and I will clean it quickly. Meeting up with OG would be couple more hours out of my work day. It's bad enough that I am sneaking away for half a day for this F2F deal. Even though I am the boss, I still have a responsibility to be in my office. Instead, I am driving for 3 hours, spending money I don't have on another gun that I don't need and on top of all that, pissing off my wife who always tells me I only have 2 hands! Why do I need all of these guns! I try to tell her it's essential for SHTF! She never buys it though and I wind up giving her "almost" what I paid for the new gun to put towards the bills from my side money to shut her up! I also like nice watches and she bitches that her Timex does the same thing as my Omega for $2,000 less! She just won't listen to REASON!!!!

True, I did not think of that! Og said they have corrosive primers though and I have a Mosin Nagant with a virgin barrel. I just don't want to take the chance! Not a big deal unless I get lazy after shooting one day and forget to clean the gun. (Been there, done that several times)! Come home from a day at the range, have a beer, then another and another, I'll clean them tomorrow. Next thing you know it's months later and "OH CRAP" look at this rifle!!!!

Thank you! Now tell me you are telling me the truth!!! Just kidding, most of those older sardine cans have corrosive primers, not a big deal if you clean the rifle just after shooting the ammo! I don't give a crap how old the ammo is, I would not stand at the wrong side of the barrel while it's tested!!!

No problem, I appreciate the advise! I kinda knew I had to go straight home however, if nature called, I would stop at a rest stop. NJ can only push it so far!!!

Damn! I just got a Cosmoline wraped up NIB 1955 Polish Mosin Nagant and could use some ammo! Please tell me they have corrosive primers so I won't feel so bad!!!

Realistically, my copy of the P2P would have the sellers address on it. I don't see a problem there as I came from the sellers house as far anyone would know. I am not stupid enough to mention Dunkin Donuts to anyone, let alone a LEO at a car stop!

ogfarmer, I trust your advice! If I go straight home from Dunkin Donuts (I know, FUNNY) Am I ok??? Do I really need to make the transaction at an exempted place? I will be going to Elizabeth, exit 13 off the turnpike. Can I meet up wit you near a turnpike exit and get one of those 54R sardine cans from you??????? Plus, I would have to meet up with you before the F2F since stopping to see you would be a deviation!

I am driving up from far South Jersey to just across from Manhattan. His house would be another 45 minutes for me to drive. I asked to meet someplace close to the turnpike, he mention that location, that's all!

LOL because LEO and Dunkin Donuts, or LOL because it's illegal???? Can some of our resident NJ FFLs chime in here???

I never heard that a F2F transaction has to take place in an exempted location.

Are you serious??? He's a county LEO trying to sell a .22 pistol and I have FPID, DL and P2P in hand, so I am legal. Do I need to ask to see his FPID and/or DL to be in the letter of the law?

1) I will be buying a handgun in a F2F transfer with a LEO in North Jersey tomorrow. We are meeting at a Dunkin Donuts. The LEO is on duty and in his patrol car. After we finish the transaction, do I need to go straight to my residence without a PeePee stop or am I safe returning to work at my office and then straight home after work? 2) My town in South Jersey is taking about 8 business days from the time I drop off the paperwork till my P2Ps are in my hands. My references are not being contacted and I only pay $2 per permit. No mention at all about any $18 mental health check! Is this normal? Is the mental check up the local PD?? Just looking for some clarification. Thanks!

! I would not want the Chief's clerk to get into trouble for not following the letter of the law! If you feel that my township is in violation of state law. Please tell me so I can advise the clerk as to proper procedure in the future! I do not want, nor do I expect that I am receiving special attention! I suspect that the way my P2Ps are being handled are the same for all in my community.

If you advise me to keep my mouth shut to the Chief and I respond in an open forum which municipality I live in, am in effect not keeping my mouth shut??? To the best of your knowledge, Is my town breaking any rules? I am a former LEO in my town but that was 30 years ago! I doubt the current Chief would even know of me!

No, not at all! This is my 2nd set of permits in 3 months and just $4.00 per set. They don't even check my references! They do not ask for anything other than the request form and $2.00 per permit! I received the permits 8 business days after turning them in. I suppose this is unusual??? Should I write a letter to the Chief of Police to thank him for such great service?

What's with the $22.00??? I gave my local PD $4.00, $2 for each of two permits and got them in the mail today, 10 days later!

Just took a look at of my shiny new P2P's I got in the mail today.Took 10 whole days this time! It lists an SBI# which is my FPID card #. So no doubt about it!!!