Darrenf

I'm not counting on any rebate. It's just funny to see the outrage about a product that you are against, while no issues with gasoline being made cheaper by the oil subsidies. I will be happy to take you for a spin once I get it though. Range and ride day maybe?

Where is this outrage for oil subsidies?

I can tell you first hand it will cut the range up to 40%. So take that into account. I understand range anxiety, and they aren't for everyone yet, but for me they work now. In the near future, they should make it for everyone, and once you drive one, you'll feel like everything else is a compromise.

Again, if the grid is down, you're not getting gas either. Maybe you shouldn't buy a car that isn't also a boat, since many of those vehicles were under water.

Not upset at all, that is just what you have to tell yourself because you can't understand why someone would want something different from you. I also never said it was perfect, but you know all about strawmans, right? There are plenty of things that in the prototype I'm not ecstatic about, but the pluses still outweigh the negatives for me. Do you insert yourself in every thread where someone want's to know who ordered a new product and proceed to explain how it doesn't live up to your lofty yet arbitrary standards?

It's so cute when people try to paint someone who disagrees with them as "angry". I don't care what you drive, I'm just pointing out the absurdity of your argument. I'm not giving up anything either. It's strange that you think I'd put $1000 down and many more in the future to "give up" something. You still haven't explained how an electric vehicle is a liability in a hurricane compared to a gasoline vehicle, and keep in mind you made that point in reference to public charging points. I am looking forward to this vehicle because it suits my needs better than anything else near its price point. If it doesn't work for you, fine, just say that and move on, instead of the continuing the ridiculous points you're making. It shows you are the one emotionally attached, trying to convince people not to buy it because you don't like it. Not sure what would compel you to make that effort.

That is definitely an issue. Of course, as the Supercharger network gets more ubiquitous this to will fall as an obstacle.

Still don't see how this is relevant? Are you saying you can't get fuel because the power is out? How is that going to work when you show up to the gas station when they can't run their pumps? And hows this for a mind blower, there are systems that will use the power stored in car to run your house. Or, if you are so inclined with a natural gas powered generator for the home, you could also power your car back up. Neither of those are options with an internal combustion powered car. So, you can see why those objections don't really make sense, and just betray a possibly subconscious bias against electric cars. Let me ask you this, have you driven a Tesla?

Finally got my P2P, so I'll be picking up my SW 22 Victory today!

Yep, some people just have a bug up their ass about things. What if a hurricane hits? That is your reason for not buying a car? WTF!

Two trunks (front and rear), and rear headroom reported by a 6'1" journalist just now that in the back seat he put his fist on his head and didn't touch the roof. How many days a month do you drive over 200 miles?

Ran over to Devon today to put a deposit one one. Got there at 11:30, was back on my way home at noon. Now I wait.

Pretty much same here as 1ltcap, but it's Critical Duty.

I think you're missing my question. An argument for that law would show how that benefits the society, not what the law is, but what it's benefits versus costs are. For example, NICs is positive because it could keep the some guns out of the hands of bad guys. The negative is it costs law abiding citizens time and money, and if you aren't a law abiding citizen you'll just get your weapon illegally, negating the benefit I mentioned.

I'm assuming you are responding to me, but I have to point out that is not an argument for a law.

Slightly off topic, does anyone have arguments FOR any gun laws that could actually accomplish some benefit to society? Might be a fun exercise.

You're confusing Kreskin with Uri Geller. Understandable.

Wish I could.

Face palm.

It's almost like you are unable to discern any nuance. Like you know, criminals can be stopped, yet not killed. Yet somehow in the moments when a crime is happening, you can also see into the criminals past and know that they are "repeat offenders who have hurt countless families with their crimes. " Tell me Kreskin, what is it like to be all knowing and be able to mete out justice unilaterally.

True.

Damn him! ar·gue ˈärɡyo͞o/ verb 1. give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view.

My wife has the same thing. Now she thinks she wants the Browning 1911 .380. If I ever get my permits she just might have one to use.

Good luck! We're all counting on you.