Carcano

This was discussed in another thread on here (I'll try and dig up the link) and the answer was "resident" and "reside"...you can't have an empty lot with a mail box (for example) you need to own a house/rent apartment etc. and provide proof to the FFL (lease agreement, tax and utility bills) and the FFL can still refuse to complete the sale.

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/24275-pa-state-id-and-purchasing-firearms/?p=669980

You are right, except others have pointed out how you could get around it by getting a lease agreement or similar document made up...

That's a lot of work, OGAM isn't THAT bad

"Permanent residence", so unless you can provide proof you reside in PA nobody will sell you one. At a minimum (to be legal) you need a lease agreement or some other document to satisfy the FFL you really "reside" in PA. You could get your LTCF and use that as proof and keep your NJ DL to avoid having to get a PA DL sine PA law requires you to obtain a PA DL within 60 days of moving to PA. I thought about doing this before... 1. Rent a sh*t hole apartment in Chester on the cheap. 2. Get PA DL and LTCF. 3. Buy whatever firearms you want. 4. Drive up twice a month to collect mail or have someone forward it.

You know what, I've had a shitty night so start from worst to best

ROLMAO!

Please, tell us And if it goes wrong for any reason you will know...since I wont be online

Worth reading, but should be condensed or limited to 400-500 words...average person will not bother to read it (too long)

Just speculation but that's what I thought so I posted it. Ex-carney man: Fill us in on this, very curious what happened to require a Doc's visit?

But you need to genuinely reside in PA, buying a lot and shoving a mailbox on it doesn't establish true residency. I have heard from a FFL that you can even use a Passport instead of a DL or State ID... I can't see going through all this to save on FFL fees or pistol permits. Buy whatever handgun(s) you want in PA and have a NJ FFL transfer them to you.

You need to reside in PA, you must maintain a residence in PA...summer homes are pushing it. I forget what the ATF had to say about "permanent residence" but worth researching before someone attempts this just to purchase firearms... I don't know of any PA FFL that would sell you a handgun with NJ DL and PA lease agreement. Long guns I know they will sell you with a NJ DL and PA lease agreement (most shops)...

Unless he experienced hearing difficulty and that's why he visited a Doc?...

He's full of it, no way can someone with a NJ DL buy a pistol in PA and carry it back (in person) legally. Federal Law. I *think* C&R holders can buy C&R eligible handguns out of state and transport them back since a C&R is a (limited) FFL for collectors but NJ doesn't recognize C&R licenses without a NJ retail firearms license (takes away the purpose of having a C&R license. Edit: Ball and cap, pre-1898 firearms (pre-1898 cartridge pistols/rifles) and "80%" 1911 frames (illegal to finish in NJ) are all legal to purchase out of state (at the Federal level).

Yep, legally anyone can send it along with a copy of DL via overnight or 2-day air. Some FFL's aren't comfortable accepting from private parties (non-FFL's).

This is an SW5 (special weapons, AZ) clone in 9mm, looks pretty "evil" with that fake can

Yep, used up 10 books in 7 years And yes, PRNJ appears (on the surface) to be a foreign country to those in free pro-2A States. Christie could move this forward and work on CCW but alas in politics this is a touchy subject.

No, NJ isn't required to honor PA permits. Get caught with a concealed handgun in NJ and do the time. Saying you should need a passport to cross into NJ is laughable, just because two states border each other doesn't mean the laws are equal. When I got my non-resident Utah CCW I made sure I double triple checked where I could carry and where I couldn't, how hard is it for someone to punch in Google "PA CCW NJ" and within 60 seconds you will see it's a no-go? or call NJSP if they do not own a computer and ask? Carl_g says PA treats it residents like adults (no test for CCW) so if PA residents can't follow the law or inquire it's not PA or NJ's fault, again ignorance is not a valid excuse. I feel sorry for her and agree with the pardon Christie gave but he could do much more, NJ should honor PA permits and issue CCW permits for self-defense to all residents..

So they should research the law before crossing into NJ, ignorance is no excuse.

Exactly

I swear, NJ.com can never get facts straight...every gun article they run is worded to drive fear.

The article said it was a submachine gun, LOADED and with a SILENCER. So... 1 - It's not a fully automatic SMG 2 - No silencer, just a cosmetic feature to hide the barrel. This leads non gun owners to believe it is a fully automatic suppressed SMG when it's really just a .22LR plinker.

I have a few HK clones including HK33, G3 and MP5 (9mm and 10mm) all NJ legal but look very "evil". I have Navy trigger housing on all of them (Safe-Semi-Burst-Auto). I would hope most PD's know it's not FA and that NJSP Firearms Unit knows what a semi and auto pack look like, the blocking shelf, etc. but this has always bothered me...what if they mistake it for a FA?

Minus the collapsible stock is good to go, I have one

Hope...Pray....You keep the change?