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Check slickguns.com Contact the vendor/distributor stocking the caliber you need and see if they offer case discounts.

Look at the multiple purchase reporting requirement, if you buy 2 or more pistols within a certain time frame the FFL is supposed to send a form to ATF but most NJ FFL's are unaware of it since it's not common for someone to buy 2, 4, 6, 8, etc. pistols at once. If they fail to send the form in ATF can recommend license revocation. Blame the FFL...sad but true. Actually I didn't know Smith & Wesson made a commie caliber 9x18 pistol until my PD issued my permits, they pre-typed the info since it was for a mutiple purchase...you would think they would have known it was 9x19 not 9x18 considering they carried them for years

Selective vision and memory if questioned? Using it before December is going to raise major questions, many FFL's might believe it's a forgery. NJSP and ATF knocking on the door isn't exactly fun (especially unannounced)

But ATF going after 223 isn't surprising at all, they did it with Chinese 7.62x39 and now they want 223 restricted or banned. If armor piercing handgun ammo is such a threat I wonder why ATF didn't pickup on the black tip 7.62x25 tokarev ammo that came in after the AP handgun ban? oh well lol

Well, if they go after 7.62x54 silver-tip I'm stocked on those....still have 8 or 9 crates.

It's amazing they failed to proof read it before handing them over! you would think the person in charge or even the secretary would notice the date? but like PK90 said...lol

So they had time to revise/update SP-66 but we still have paper P2P permits? progress at it's slowest??

If you need it now have them fix it, or put it away for December. You are legal and good to go both ways so no need to worry.

Online? or in-store? I haven't seen pre-panic prices come back yet, damn it I can't even find sub sonic Fiocchi hollow point bricks reasonably priced online.

If you can't take away the guns you restrict the ammo, this has happened in many countries where it is illegal to possess firearms chambered in "military" or "police" calibers. Go after 223/308/762x39 etc. since banning the rifles isn't feasible.

It could still happen, look at the street sweeper which managed to be sold without NFA tax/restrictions for several years before ATF decided it was NFA and anyone who had one needed to pay the tax/register it? They could easily pass a law making centerfire rifle cal. handguns AOW's or SBR's, look at the 1986 machine gun ban that everyone said would never pass and sure enough it passed with flying colors.

It's funny, 22lr bricks are still expensive and hard to come by around here but 223 is stocked. What the hell is happening with 22lr? I've given up all hope on the $2 per 50 round box days, saw some recently for $4 and change but quantity limit on them.

Well a copy is returned to the PD after the sale so if anything peaks interest he should be hearing from them soon I would think.

THAT would be a bad idea IMO! Using the permit BEFORE December will generate a visit or call from NJSP and the PD who issued it. But if he can wait until December he is legal and good to go.

Check slickguns.com Plenty of 223 in stock from different retailers...prices look decent....

And the ammo ban never passed, people on GunBroker and AuctionArms are crying they can't get $2 a round, life goes on...

No, you are not getting it. The 4473 must be dated at the time of sale/transfer, if the permit is dated December 2015 and he uses the permit in December and the 4473 is dated December it's fine. The OP hasn't violated any law and if he wants to use the permit (assuming it's dated valid for December 2015) and waits he should be fine.

No, if he waits until December and uses it no issue. It was issued and dated that way by the PD, so assume it's valid and think nothing of it And what do you mean by "date has to match 4473"? if he uses the permit in December the 4473 will also be dated December 2015 so that's a non-issue. And why would NJSP FIU call the FFL who accepted the first two permits? the permits are legal, valid and used accordingly. Now if he tried to use the December permit before December I could see NJSP FIU questioning it but otherwise why would they?

Just use it. The issuing authority (PD) dated it December 2015 and as long as you didn't tamper with the permit it's legally valid and good to go. A lot of PD's seem too lazy or busy to check and ask the applicant to check the permits before leaving with them.

Do the exemption, unless you are buying a ton of saturday night special crotch rockets you should be approved.

How did you come up with that? 180 days would be 6 pistols IF you purchased the first the day the P2P was signed...you would be at exactly 180 days (30 x 6) If the FFL is too lazy to do the exemption find one who will, bring them all home in one trip and pay for NICS once not 6 times.

Pull the bullets and sell them....or use the components?

Isn't that the stuff that said "TRAINING USE ONLY" on the box?

I agree, I tried to plan ahead and figured I could burn 6 permits in 6 months but realized 5 was all I could use when taking into consideration holidays and my local PD dating the permits two or so weeks before I received them. The multiple handgun exemption is so easy to apply for it's worth it, I was surprised that mine were approved within a few weeks.

Mipa Ranch still has some in stock? are they bad rounds or something?