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No, the person applying fills it out not the PD. Somers Point hands out a flyer explaining the process and to contact the PD if you have difficulty doing it yourself online. You pay for the background check with a Credit or Debit Card. The results are forwarded to the PD.

I didn't know ATF sent out a list of State laws/requirements, that's interesting.

I know, Paul, I only posted the image so people wouldn't have to click on the GB link.

Never been asked for my FPID just my Drivers License and of course the 4473, NJ cannot enforce laws in PA or any other State. The FPID is scratch paper outside of NJ.

Here is the letter from that GunBroker listing:

Print this out and hand it to them, if they question it call NJSP and ask for the Firearms Unit they will confirm only the State forms are required. http://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/judge-rules-nj-towns-can-not-arbitrarily-add-additional-requirements-for-gun-permits/#axzz2ppFrJ7My Just remember it might stir the pot but it could save others from the same BS.

Sure, and when it involves a gun the media is all over it like flies on s**t.

So you have a 1 in 316.1 MILLION chance of this same exact thing happening to you.... Meanwhile you stand a far better chance of being killed in a car crash, falling or poisoning. ..........................

Most would say yes, read this: This is especially absurd for the statute under which Haynes was tried -- the National Firearms Act of 1934. This law was originally passed during the Depression, when heavily armed desperadoes roamed the nation, robbing banks and engaging in kidnap for ransom. The original intent of the National Firearms Act was to provide a method for locking up ex-cons that the government was unable to convict for breaking any other law. As Attorney General Homer Cummings described the purpose of the law, when testifying before Congress: Now, you say that it is easy for criminals to get weapons. I know it, but I want to make it easy to convict them when they have the weapons. That is the point of it. I do not expect criminals to comply with this law; I do not expect the underworld to be going around giving their fingerprints and getting permits to carry these weapons, but I want them to be in a position, when I find such a person, to convict him because he has not complied.During the same questioning, Cummings expressed his belief that, "I have no fear of the law-abiding citizen getting into trouble." Rep. Fred Vinson of Kentucky, while agreeing with Cummings' desire to have an additional tool for locking up gangsters, pointed out that many laws that sounded like good ideas when passed, were sometimes found "in the coolness and calmness of retrospect" to be somewhat different in their consequences. Source: https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.haynes.html

This would have made the news, I call BS and that site (especially it's posters) are far from credible. Until proof turns up it's just a story some guy wrote on his sofa.

When he asks "where is mom?" how do you answer that? when he is older he will find the news articles online. Going to be hard to say "well, you shot your mother"

Unless it somehow managed to not be picked up by the media, no news articles found when I searched. It could be a load of BS OR it might have happened, who knows...

I call BS on the story.

Right now he has other things to think about, it's not tragic it's probably devastating for him.

Cannot find any mention in the news articles. It must have had a lite trigger pull for a 2 year old to successfully fire it. Wish they would specify the make/model.

Mipa, I bet the family sues the maker of the bag...seems with most firearm related tragedies a decent payout goes a long way to heal wounds.

Thanks!! Let's hope this year works well for us gun owners If anything this shows why carrying off body (in a bag) is never a good idea, better to always carry on-body.

Yea... But the anti's are already having a field day and using this as yet another example of why gun ownership is way too dangerous. This was an isolated incident. That kid is going to be scared, might even be anti gun when he grows up, who knows. Happy New Years 1LtCAP

“They are painting Veronica as irresponsible, and that is not the case,” he said. “… I brought my son up around guns, and he has extensive experience shooting it. And Veronica had had hand gun classes; they’re both licensed to carry, and this wasn’t just some purse she had thrown her gun into.” Irresponsible? no, a tragic accident? yes. No way that 2 year old did this intentionally.

And the anti's will respond with "this is why guns are bad" and "nobody should carry a gun" BS

ATF wouldn't touch it...too sticky... After that hope he sends it to ATF...will never hear from them again

Shhhhh! Don't tell the anti's that or they will harp on how carrying firearms puts everyone at risk, etc. Accident doesn't sound as bad...

Also I've bought inert/training items from overseas before and never had a problem. Had a box come from Ukraine last year with mags/parts/some other things it was never opened... If he ships surface (not airmail) chances are it will never be x-rayed...

Almost all AK's with pinned breaks and bayonet lugs removed are NJ legal. WASR-10's with pinned break and ground off bayonet lugs are fine. Any shop telling customers this shouldn't be in business.

I remember before my FID seeing these dirt cheap in mil surplus catalogs and I bought one (maybe two) and forgot about them until I had my SKS. I tried the launcher a few times and no black helicopters or NJSP knocking on the door. As far as I know they are legal. $18.66 for 20 at http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/M195-GRENADE-LAUNCHING-BLANK_p_214.html They turn up for less on gunbroker from time to time. Be careful some sell the East German surplus blanks as grenade launching blanks they are not GL blanks but low pressure blanks.