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Friday 0700. Several new BS regulations along with the opening. Also, members, spouses and offspring only, no guests. Edit to add: Outdoor only, indoor range remains closed.

Listen to Mr.Stu here, he knows his stuff. You understandably so, confused NJ and America, sadly there is a difference. The *&_$# currently occupying the Governor's office has gone on record more than once expressing his hatred of firearms (and private citizens who own them) as well as his ignorance of and disregard for The Bill of Rights. You can read all about in ad nauseum in other threads here.

He's not going to lift the restrictions until he is forced to. Just like the shops, NJ NICS and fingerprinting. Hopefully by the end of the month. I saw the Court is giving NJ until the 27th to respond to the lawsuit, then our side has to respond to that within two days. I may be off one day either side on the 27th.

Getting back on topic... I did it. I joined the @Zeke cool kids club and bought a SIG. Or, I bought a SIG in the hopes of joining the cool kids club? I'm not sure on the exact requirements. P365. I was told 1-2 days for NICS.

Got the phone call to pick them up today. NJSP Sgt said normal procedure to pick them up, he "suggested" I wear a mask.

I skimmed the pdf quoted above. I found it to be good reading and they pointed out the many points that have been discussed. Including Murphy's comment of wanting fewer guns in society.

Do we know when this will be in front of a Judge? I also assume this will start with a State Court, then need to go to the Federal level?

https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice Took a few minutes of my time. We know Murphy, Callaghan and Grewal will not help us. My letter as a sample for those that wish to use it: Attorney General Barr, I am contacting you today asking for your help. You have been quoted as directing federal prosecutors to "be on the lookout" for overly restrictive state and local shutdown orders that may infringe on people's constitutional rights. It is my belief that NJ Gov Murphy and NJSP Colonel Callaghan are doing just that by keeping Private and Public indoor and outdoor firearms ranges closed. Initially NJ closed all FFL dealers as well; it was only after Federal guidelines were issued and threat of lawsuits that they allowed FFL dealers to open (with restrictions). He then delayed allowing the only NJ Approved fingerprinting company to resume printing; as well as the department within the NJSP that handles NICS checks. This past weekend, Gov Murphy reopened parks and gave Golf Courses the green light to reopen. Citizens that wish to exercise their Second Amendment Right and maintain perishable marksmanship skills are still prohibited access to Private Ranges under threat of fines and/or imprisonment. There is no science to defend the different treatments of its citizens by the State of NJ. Outdoor ranges far exceed social distancing guidelines, unlike golf courses. Indoor Ranges have advanced air filtration systems and can be sanitized quickly in between users. Gov Murphy and Colonel Callaghan have both publicly expressed their distaste for the Second Amendment as well as those who support and practice it. They have been using the ongoing Pandemic as a tool to punish law abiding citizens and will continue to do so until they are forced to stop. Thank you

Applied & references completed March 19. Criminal History completed email on April 23. Standard "Approved email" May 2. Typically I get a phone call next, anywhere from 1 or 2 days to a week to ten days after the "Approved" email.

Steve is a great guy and will get what you want. But being a larger business, Cheyenne has more in-stock for someone that needs to see many brands/models. The last I saw Cheyenne was appointment only also. They originally stated they were not going to reopen, then went appointment. Steve, I think is also appointment only. I would say Howell Gun Works is in the middle inventory-wise. More than Steve, less than Cheyenne.

Anyone have a suggestion for a BRC that would be comparable to Wawa Colombian?

I deal with NJSP directly. Applied on 3/19; both references in on the same day. Not a peep since.

I found a seller that claims 3M is American Made, the 3M site does not specify. https://www.baileysonline.com/peltor-3m-lumberjack-hard-hat-system-h706pfk-h706pfk.html

Anyone come across an American Made forestry aka chainsaw helmet? This is a hard hat with a face screen/shield, sometimes with integrated ear muffs. Ear muffs are not important, the hard hat part is less important, I really just want it for keeping sawdust out of my face. None of the ones I find online bother to list origin, which typically means China, Taiwan, etc...

Make sure you call first. From the post: "Sig Sauer M400 Tread. $799.99 plus nics and tax. Only a few available. Sig Sauer M400 elite titanium. $1149.99 plus nics and tax. Only a few available." Also, some shops have reduced hours thanks to gov bucky.

Howell Gun Works posted the M400 on fb this morning. $800 + nics & tax. Not near you, but it's what you're looking for and already NJ compliant. https://www.facebook.com/HowellGunWorks/

Short answer: possibly. Longer answer, post what you're looking at and people here can most certainly give you a definitive answer. Also, read this page. #15 specifically may help you. https://www.njsp.org/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml

It sounds like you know what you want already? If so... top of the page (if you're not on mobile view) click "More" then "Gun Price Requests", fill out the form and the FFLs we have here will respond. You can also try posting in the "Want to Buy" section. Most dealers can order what you want if they don't have it in stock also. It might take longer now, but you said you're still waiting for your FID also.

That update came through my email this morning and I just now had a chance to actually read and ponder it. Clearly, I call BS on closing all ranges. Even more so outdoor and private. I am undecided if I fully agree with the decision by ANJRPC to drop the matter (or at least not file a lawsuit) at this time. Reasonable people can debate that. What I am fully pleased with is the transparency and explanation behind the decision.

https://nj2as.org/COMPLAINTS/

I've been buying from them for several years now; jeans, socks, belts, shirts, jackets (I think you get the idea). Quality stuff, excellent customer service; and the name says it all.

This came in via email couple hours ago. Hopefully (at a minimum, private) ranges will be next. "Just 18 hours after we broke the story about the NJ government keeping the fingerprint system closed, it appears NJ State Police backpedaled on their position and are now allowing IndentoGO to process fingerprint appointments for firearms." https://nj2as.org/nj-state-police-quietly-restore-firearms-fingerprinting-after-nj2as-exposes-constitutional-violation/

@Mrs. Peel (I'm singling you out here, because from my unscientific study, you are one of the more active mods).... There's several posts in several threads about first time gun owners. What do you think about a LOCKED thread, that: 1: Welcomes them. 2: Provides a FAQ, consisting of links to NJSP Gun section, and other first timer info, maybe training info as well. 3: Links to NJ Based 2A Orgs with brief a description and why they deserve support from all gun owners. 4-x: TBD. I proposed it being locked so it can't get political or off track. Also, would there be a way to direct all new accounts here to be directed there?

Welcome. Impressive turn around. Congrats. You state you're a first time gun owner. Please be safe; ask questions; there are some quality youtube channels and other resources that can offer immediate education prior to you taking a in-person class (if you choose). There's also some dangerous BS out there by people claiming to be experts. Many cases you can tell the difference, ask here if not. Also, please consider supporting the NJ based 2A orgs that made it possible for you to exercise your rights; face it, Murphy would send the NJSP in a door to door confiscation if he thought he could get away with it.

I'll give them $300, and pay the transfer fee.