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Oleg, just choose *your* store, that's basically it. This or similar topics have been discussed here for a while and I wholeheartedly agree with intercooler - I generally have a very long memory about business not treating me right and make sure my hard earned money goes *only* to those who do. I would even say more - some stores out of state will almost force you to handle their guns even if you tell them explicitly that you were out-of-state and could not buy there no matter how much you wanted it, LOL. That happened a lot to me in PA and I just see it as a matter of a sales culture. While I am not buying a gun there (simply because I can't), I gladly make those shops as a main spot for accessories and other gun-related stuff. Heritage Guild Easton is a prime example of such a spot for me - it is roughly an hour drive from my place and there are more ranges even in a close proximity to me, but I go almost exclusively to HG for almost a year already, because they treat me right. My personal general rule of thumb (that not really everyone agrees to here) is that businesses should not impose more restrictions on customers than it is required by law, period. And that is not only about gun stores, I can easily give more examples of somewhat similar situations in non-gun related businesses. Maybe I think so because I am not an owner of a gun store, who knows :-)

I arrived to the class in the end of March at around 08:15 (made a wrong turn and came from the wrong side of the area) and they have already been about to start the first part of the class. I'd say try as much as possible to make it at 08:00. My experience is that everyone there was really friendly, so even if you come at 09:00 they will *most likely* still try to accept you, but I obviously can't guarantee this. ... As one of those guys said later that day "All activities here as well as the exam are designed for you to pass, not fail" :-)

Sorry for your loss, Howard. Almost a month passed since I lost my daxie, but I still think about him almost every day... They do really become not just friends, but a part of a family...

OK, thanks, then I'll just live with that I'd say this whole build shouts "cheeeeap" all over it, so should not be an issue, LOL Thanks again!

Not exactly, at least in my understanding. My main point with quite a long example was that the first range is the one where you can not practice handgun shooting due to the range regulations. That said, from the *practical* (not legal!) standpoint coming to such a range with handguns is the same as coming to a fishing pond, top of the mountain or a museum. From the legal point of view, as I understood, it is still a range and nobody gives a f**k if you could have used a handgun there or not. Don't worry, after getting some food for thoughts this weekend at Shongum I have more dumb questions like this one, LOL :-) I just thought if I ask them at once, I will be outright banned for stupidity ))

OK, OK, I stop ))) No, seriously, I do it all the time as well, but almost every time I talk to someone (at the range, gun shop etc) I get some new pieces of information (of which at least 90% is usually BS) that makes me rethink all (or some parts) I know about gun laws again... Just wanted to double check with reasonable people here, that's it

Oops, and if at least one range is in the Commonwealth of PA everything breaks down?

So even if the first range is clearly marked as "Shotguns only, no pistols or rifles permitted" and pretty much everyone knows it you still don't see an issue with the fact, that I *can not* practice shooting with my handgun there, but I still have it in my trunk at the moment I come to a range? Not trying to stretch it, but if I come to an archery range and then to a pistol range, am I also fine as both of them are "ranges"? (Personally I fully agree with all said above, so I'm glad that other people think the same way :-) )

I know that such a question is too hypothetical to be specifically reflected in any law or even case law. I also know that there is no set-in-stone definition of what "reasonable deviation" is, but I am mostly interested in your opinion on a practical situation. Let's say you have two favorite ranges - one very much tailored to rifle / shotgun shooting (long range, trap/skeet etc.) and another one to pistol action shooting (moving targets etc.). They are both quite far from your home (let's say, at least an hour drive), but pretty close to each other (10-15 mins drive). You pretty much have only 1 day in a week that you want to shoot both your shotguns/rifles and your pistols. Early morning you pack ALL your stuff to your trunk and go to Range 1. You open your trunk, get your shotgun, shells and go shoot some clays. After shooting clays for an hour you decide that this was pretty much it for that day... with a shotgun. You pack your shotgun back to the trunk, get into the car, drive another 15 minutes to another range, open a trunk, get a range bag with your pistols, go and shoot them for another 2 hours. After that you pack pistols back and go home. You can effectively replace "2 ranges" with two specific events (let's say, some shotgun shooting in the morning and IDPA match in the evening in another location). Does this scenario raise any particular red flags (I clearly understand WHAT kind of flags, LOL) and what is the riskiest part of such a journey? I guess you will probably have some issues if your bag with handguns is stolen from your trunk while you shooting clays, but other than that I don't really see any other chances to get busted...

Sorry for stealing the thread, but didn't really want to start a new one on a similar topic. So, trying to finalize my super-budget AR build (PTAC parts & upper etc) and make it NJ legal I have been looking for a *cheap* muzzle break. Finally I ran into this one http://www.buyzillion.com/1117186048097106/ar15-223-1-2x28-competition-muzzle-device-brake MZ-1008B NoName :-) I ordered one off Amazon for ~$15, it comes, looks especially nice on a PTAC barrel (very similar color tone) and I was about to pin it... but two things caught my attention: 1) Some people on Amazon were reporting this brake "considerably reducing muzzle flip *as well as flash*" 2) An exit hole looks a little bit bigger than I would imagine for a muzzle brake (but still significantly smaller than on A2 flash hider) To put it in a perspective, here is the picture. On the left it is the unthreaded 223/5.56 barrel of my M&P15 In the middle - A2-type flash hider not very legal in NJ On the right hand side - PTAC barrel with a mentioned muzzle brake installed. I don't have a caliper, but it roughly measures ~0.400" at the exit hole. Some people also reported that the company might have sent them a wrong compensator for .308 instead of .223 So, what should I do? Should I return this muzzle brake? Is it a brake at all? If I still keep it and permanently attach it to the barrel, will it work as it should or is it too big to work properly?

... And my usual noob question again - what is the usual round count on stages there @ CJ USPSA matches? Will I suffer with only 4 mags for my Glock 19 in production or should I immediately buy 1... 2... 3 more mags & pouches?

Just to revive an old thread - I was very much delighted to discover that Mighty Quinn's has a new location in Clifton, NJ, now which is essentially 10 minutes drive from me :-) http://mightyquinnsbbq.com/locations.html Have already been there once and I can say that it is by no means at least NOT worse than in NYC, but maybe even better. It's clearly spacier in Clifton, and servings are visually bigger than in NYC (but maybe it's just for now, who knows). Brisket is definitely as delicious as in their Manhattan location.

Just thought it's worth reposting here - I have been looking at this gun for quite a long time - it has been on sale @ Sportsman Outdoor for $799 for a short period of time, but then prices went up and have been hanging around $900+. Now it seems to be on sale for $774 - I have to admit (and the little graph with historical prices at slickguns just confirms it) that it has NEVER been offered at such a price before - the lowest so far was $791. UPDATE: 05/13/2014 - It is $800 again after a price rise recently. http://www.firearmsforsale.com/sig-sauer-inc/firearms/handguns/pistols/9mm-4.4in-15plus1-black-polymergrip-black/ I would say if you were looking for this gun, it might be a good time to order one...

I was there that day as well I was told something about "re-inventory / inventory check" in progress (though I haven't seen anyone actually counting boxes on shelves, so might be some BS).

Talking about experience with different stores I got into a funny conversation a couple of days ago... So me driving along Rt22 around Union and willing to go to Dick's to check if they (surprise!) have some 22 in stock. Accidentally I see Sports Authority sign on my right and just decide to stop by there (I remember I was checking with SA several months ago when I was looking for a gun safe/cabinet). I step into the store, walk around a bit trying to find a "Fishing / Hunting Section" as they usually call it... and don't see it. On my next passage I step right next to a young and really cute store associate having a nice (and probably very business-important) chit-chat with a colleague of hers and ask her where a "fishing & hunting section" was... I make a pause here (imagine a "pause" like in any Tarantino movies, LOL, with a respective sound...). What kind of answer you could probably expect? Maybe an obvious "Sure, go along this aisle and turn left at the end and hunting stuff will be right in front of you". Good scenario. Might also be "I am sorry, we don't have a hunting section in this store, please try our store at ..., they might have a wider selection" Bad scenario, but still acceptable. I would even accept "I am sorry, it's my first day here, I'm ashamed to tell, but I don't really know where it is and if it is here at all"... Bad, but funny. Ask another associate. You know what I heard from a cure smiling young lady? ... ... "Oh NO, we GOT RID OF IT" (*her words exactly*) I was so f****g amazed to hear such a thing from a sporting goods store associate, that I can't even explain it in words. "Miss, could you please tell me where I could buy tennis balls in your store? - Oh, no, we got rid of them, tennis is not trendy anymore, just buy yourself a soccer ball or a mountain bike, we have a great selection of those..." or "Miss, where I can find XXL hoodies here? - Oh, no, we just got rid of them, we only sell S through XL hoodies now and plan to get rid of XL as well next month. You just need to get smaller really..." WTF?! Is fishing / hunting hobby a plague that a store should even be kinda proud of "getting rid of"? Or am I not getting something here? ) P.S. There was no 22 ammo in Dick's either :-) But at least there gun section is still there, as they have not yet gotten rid of it...

I'd gladfully buy a couple of those from you or exchange it to ammo, clays or whatever could be relevant I only have 1 15rd mag for AR so 1-2 more would definitely be good.

^^^^ THIS I took a class last week and even though I had my own shotgun in a trunk, I ended up using the one supplied. The only reason why I could understand someone bringing his own shotty for the class is the youth model for a minor taking class. BTW, the guy who was talking us through the first part of the class before the live fine session strongly advised us to use THEIR shotguns even for a simple reason of not having to clean you own one just after a couple of shots, LOL And it definitely speeds things up, agree with woodentoe.

I am definitely in!

Sorry about your loss. I lost my dachshund less than 2 weeks ago, ironically also at the age of 8 and also due to the cancer. Glad that you made up your mind about getting a new one, I still feel like it would be extremely hard for me to see another *dog* at home... Maybe after some time I'll change my mind.

You better try to explain how come after a) undergoing an extensive check the first time you get your FID (it took me ~4 months to get my initial FID), b) undergoing similarly extensive checks every time you get new permits (~3 months for me with all the same letters sent to my references etc.) ... you still get DELAYED by NICS, presumably in order to run a couple of EXTRA checks on you... just to tell you a day (or a couple of hours) later that you were approved. This is just completely and simply beyond my understanding... What the h**l is the reason of issuing those P2Ps at all if you STILL need to undergo another check at POS? (I am asking about the *real* practical reason, not the one we all know about)

I took a class on 01/09/14 and sent both packages (Utah and Florida) on 01/10. Florida got the package on 01/13 (based on tracking), Utah - on 01/14 I haven't been really looking into check cashing and credit card charges, but on 02/19 my FL status changed to "Issued, will be delivered in 3-4 weeks". I wasn't at home in the beginning of March, but when I got back both of the licenses were waiting for me in my mailbox. UT says "Date of issue: 02/21" FL says "Date of issue: 02/19" At least what can be observed is that they took pretty much the same time both to be processed.

OK, thanks everyone, ordered a threaded barrel version. Cleaning the gun with an oil filter attached sounds like a good idea to keep it in a good shape, I'll definitely look closely into what kind of solvent and filter to use for the best experience.

That will be next month Sig P226 Classic in 22 with X-Change kit.

I need to burn one permit ASAP, but with all recent expenses don't really have money to buy what I really want now, LOL. That said I think it might be the right time for me to finally buy a relatively cheap 22lr-plinker. After trying different ones I finally came to a conclusion that I am getting Ruger SR22 - looks nice, not really expensive and will nicely fit my wife's hand and (in a couple of years, maybe) my son's hand as well. The only question I have now (before finally ordering one) is the following - there are two "versions" available in the market now (maybe more but those are the ones I was looking at) - with threaded barrel (SR22PBT, UPC 736676036042) and without one (SR22PB - UPC 736676036004). The latter is normally 15-25 bucks cheaper than the threaded barrel version, but I will be glad to save even this amount now. So, does it make sense to go WITH the threaded barrel or without it? I doubt I will ever be getting a suppressor for it (clearly not while I'm in NJ). Is it legal at all in NJ to have a threaded barrel on a handgun like this? (I guess yes, but just double-checking) I saw some strange comments on other forums that "threaded barrel version is less accurate than the usual barrel one" - sounds like BS, but I have no real idea on it. Thoughts?

Very tempting to get one, but I still don't understand for sure - if I order one from http://www.classicfirearms.com/paprifle-2 ($450 with 20 10rders) - will it be NJ-legal out of the box or will I have to do any prnj-compliance work on it?