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Thanks, good to know about Walmart (btw, you mean Springfield, Mass., right?) I can confirm about Gander Mtn as well - I was in one of their NY locations (~20 mi to the west from Monroe, can't remember the town) and they told me that they could sell a long gun to NJ res. My only concern was actually Walmart :-) Good to know if that is not their nationwide policy against us, LOL

Sorry, I meant NJ Driver's license, but I had NJ FID on me as well. So, what you are saying is that you were actually able to buy firearms in Walmart somewhere in PA or elsewhere recently with NJ DL?

Thanks everyone, will probably start with reaching out local gun shops leaving all more "exotic" options for later :-) Or just live with 2 mags I have now...

Really? Have you actually tried buying any firearms in Walmart with NJ license? I am curious because it has the cheapest Crickett youth rifle available - they sell it for $109+tax compared to $179 at Gander Mtn in NY or $159 (even if it is in stock which is rare) at HG Easton. From what I've been told by an older gentleman at firearms counter in Walmart near Easton, PA, their system is designed in a way that the moment they choose "NJ" in a list of states for the customer's DL, it just does not allow them to proceed any further - end of story. I even politely asked to speak to a manager and asked about manual overrides, exceptions etc, but as I expected - none are possible and they blame the system that is "hardcoded" to intimidate NJ/NY residents, LOL :-) They even have a map on they computers that allows you to choose a state of the store and it shows all states residents of which can NOT buy firearms there. I don't remember the whole list, but what surprised me was that VA was also in a restricted list... (obviously MD, NJ, MA, NY were there as well)

Question to all CZ owners - where do you get mags for your babies? :-) (I am not even saying "NJ-compliant" now, LOL) I looked in the pinned thread and the only place selling CZ75 mags listed was CDNN - checked there and they are out of stock (though I heard that they are of crappy quality anyway...). Everyone on the web suggests to go for Mec-Gar mags saying that they are essentially the same as factory ones, but I was unable to find any compliant mags online, only 16-rounders like this one - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/918412/mec-gar-magazine-cz-75-9mm-luger-16-round-steel-blue Or original ones like those - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/157778/cz-magazine-cz-75-sp-01-9mm-luger-18-round-steel-blue So, how to get a CZ75 mag? Anybody in NJ usually has them in stock? Or is there any online dealer that could send a non-compliant mag to PRNJ and make it a headache of a buyer how to pin it? (Yes, I know, it's not very legal, just asking). Or sending one to some friends in free states and then getting them later is the only way to go? Appreciate your advice, Thanks

Not as impressive as some have posted already, but given that I got my first handgun only around a month ago, I'd take it... 10 yards with my new CZ 75 SP-01, roughly 15 shots Apparently my hands get tired very quickly - first 5-6 rounds go mostly where they should go, but after that everything goes slightly below the point of aim...

Ammo - yes, no questions asked. Tried many times in Walmarts and gun stores in FL, GA, TN, NC, VA, PA during my recent trip to FL. Firearms in Walmart - friggin' no. Can't buy even a cheapest bolt action rifle in PA or elsewhere, hardcoded in their system to tell NJers to f**k off. But again - maybe that's because I'm a fat guy with a beard and I am obviously older than 21, but 7 out of 10 - nobody even asks me for a DL when buying ammo...

Never understood why anyone for whatever reason ineligible to buy ammo in NJ would even bother trying to do this in this state if he/she can make an hour drive to PA (deeper into the state the better) and in most instances buy any reasonable amount of ANY ammo in any Walmart even without showing an ID to anyone (well, sometimes they ask for DL, but I'd say in 7 out of 10 instances they just don't do even that)...

Just to add 2cents and test if my understanding is right... I will be applying for FL CCW soon and I have chosen it over UT basically for one reason (if I'm totally wrong here, please correct me) - if I ever make one good thing in my life and happen to move from NJ to other state that has CCW reciprocity with UT, I will have to obtain my new state CCW permit and send it in to UT together with change of address form in order to continue enjoying privileges from UT CCW. What it basically means is that from the moment I surrender my NJ DL and change it to, let's say, NC DL, until the moment I get NC CCW permit (which can take some time, maybe months...) I will not be covered by any of CCW permits so I won't be able to carry. Contrary to that, FL does not have such a requirement (to obtain your state of residence CCW permit) and its change of address is done electronically (no address is actually printed on it), so even if I move from one state to another one every year, I am still covered by FL CCW permit. That's just my understanding. Obviously if you do not foresee moving anywhere over next couple of years, then this reasoning makes no sense for you...

+1 to all kudos to Steve! Finally picked my CZ75 SP01 and M&P15 yesterday and already put several hundred rounds downrange the same day. I wasn't really expecting this transaction to be that friendly :-) Great place, great people. I can say for sure that this was definitely NOT the last time I will be going through Steve to get firearms!

I was kindly asked by a lady in PD to stop by and tell her the number I get from Morphotrak after the fingerprinting as "this *might* help them to locate the paperwork if it was lost". I did so, but nonetheless had to wait for almost 4 months, so apparently it didn't help them much :-)

The only thing I regret about NOT doing when I was in Florida in October was applying in person for FL CCW :-) I heard they have an extremely easy system to apply in one of their regional offices across the state now :-)...

Contact GB seller directly before making a bid! I have never actually completed a purchase there and so far all my contacts with sellers resulted in quite unsatisfactory experience. My latest one was a shotgun combo - listed for $306 - the one that is listed at least for $350+ everywhere else. Listing said that certified funds + checks + visa/mc are accepted. Listing also had a link to "Shipping cost estimator" that gave me around $25 (from VA) I (luckily!) wrote the seller directly before placing a bid and got the answer: "We ONLY accept USPS money orders and the shipping will cost you $50". If it was ebay (I'm more familiar with it), I would have immediately reported the seller as he is breaking the promise he gave by listing specific conditions. Here I just passed.

Just curious, is it technically possible to ignite bullet primer by electrical current (and not by the mechanical force)? (seems that it is - this is what I found on TheFiringLine) there is at least one case on record where a police officer had loose ammunition in a pocket along with a spare battery for his radio. A cartridge (.38 Special) fired, causing a nasty injury. The investigation showed that the cartridge came into contact with the battery terminals with one terminal on the primer. According to the report I saw, the investigators were able to duplicate the situation at will.

Generally I tend to agree with the idea of removing speed limits - It's both a pleasure AND a convenience. I could not believe my eyes when I made it from Austrian border to Munich in less than an hour. Doing 200kmh (~125mph) in a new Audi is a real pleasure, but a quite expensive one - fuel mileage sucks at speeds that high. (But doing 200 in a second left lane watching some Aston Martin passing next to you on the left and disappearing in 10 seconds is just priceless, LOL). At the same time I tend to disagree about most of NJ highways, especially GSP around Newark. 55mph there is just fine for the amount of roadwork being done there all the time. I've never been impressed by Turnpike as well... And... just as a sidenote to whoever complains about NJ traffic - if you ever happen to be in Russia, give it a try to drive there in a rush hour, especially in Moscow region Believe me, after several years of driving there you see all NJ and even Brooklyn drivers as nicest and kindest guys on earth with superb driving skills :-) (I heard it's even funnier in some Asian countries and in India, but I've never had a chance to try).

>>in another safe in a storage unit. So am I correct that I can technically rent a kind of PS Storage unit somewhere, put a safe there and store my guns in it? (not that I need to do so or think about that, but just out of curiosity). I was almost sure that this was not allowed...

On a serious side I'd say that at least in NJ (maybe in other states as well, don't know) this is a strict "no-no" - you have to store your guns on your premises. Any other options (leave at parents' / boyfriend / girlfriend / aunt's house) can be considered an illegal transfer. But I'm obviously neither a lawyer, nor experienced gun owner, so probably others will explain this better.

Not intending to steal or redirect the topic, but as long as Amazon is mentioned I think it's worth mentioning about a recent American Express + Amazon promo. $25 back off $75 in a form of a statement credit if paid using a registered eligible American Express card. More details here - http://millionmilesecrets.com/2013/12/01/american-express-amazon-25/ That said, if paid by Amex, those combos may cost you $175 and $85 respectively after statement credit. Another good point is that if you happen to have more than 1 Amex card (like 1 own card + 1 authorized card for a spouse), you can actually register ALL your Amex cards and get $25 statement credits on ALL of them. P.S. This is a kind of thing I monitor a lot (i.e. card promos, bonuses etc) and this one is really cool. I haven't seen such a generous one for existing users for a while... Sorry if it's completely off topic.

Thanks, in for one. Seems this little sight has exceptionally good feedback across the board... I was looking for some inexpensive Bushnell @ Amazon, but this one from PA seems to be cheaper and (at least based on feedback) not really worse...

Just wanted to share - I've been monitoring prices for M&P15 Sport (NJ compliant version, 811037) for around a month online and the cheapest I've seen so far was $583 + shipping + obviously transfer fees. Sportsman Outdoors Superstore have it now for $555 with free shipping. http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/128766 I think I've never seen such a price for this rifle before. And just a general reminder for everyone (in case if someone forgot / did not know) - if you have a Discover credit card (and many people have for sure) don't forget that this quarter ALL ONLINE SHOPPING is a bonus category with 5% cash back. So effectively this rifle would cost $527 + transfer if paid by Discover. (Probably not all Discover cards have this, so better to check with customer service over the phone if you've never used this before. Bonus categories must be "activated" prior to be used either in online banking or over the phone. There is a limit of $75 bonus per quarter (=$1500 in purchases). if your bonus is not credited after several statement cuts, call their customer service - they are extremely friendly and will adjust things accordingly if it is obvious that this was an online purchase)

Yes, the only real difference is synthetic stock vs wood in 54169 http://lanbosarmory.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9073&referrer=cnwr_4191340829622 It's just a pure aesthetic thing. BTW, as far as I understand 54169 has a pistol grip as well. For around $320 shipped (at KYGunCo) + $40 transfer it looks like a decent price. I actually haven't made my mind about it yet, that's why I haven't even tried to do a price request. It was a question more out of curiosity if a transfer through out-of-state FFL is possible for long guns, nothing more :-)

It is Mossberg 51482 with 2 barrels (28"" and 18.5" http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411548893 It is much easier to find 54169 combo now (which is basically the same one, but with wood stock, not black synthetic as I ideally want).

Fully understand your point and mostly agree. Frankly I'm equally unwilling to give business to Buds for the same reason :-) At the same time with a difference of $310 vs $460 I can find better use for $150 minus tolls and gas :-) For example, buy something from a friendly LGS. If it was a $30-50 difference I would not even bother. Apparently this combo has been discontinued by Mossberg some time ago so there's only a few online stores offering it let alone brick and mortar stores... But my initial question is still valid - is it legally a no-no, or is it possible?

Not sure if that's possible at all, but still makes sense to ask. I found a nice Mossberg shotgun combo for a rather good price at Cheaper Than Dirt, but apparently they don't ship firearms to NJ. Second best option for exactly the same combo is at Bud's and it is ~15-20% more expensive than at Cheaper Than Dirt. Third best option is almost 50% more expensive then CTD, so they really seem to have a decent deal. Is it possible / allowed to ship this firearm to any FFL in PA and conduct a transfer there (of course condition I can find FFL willing to do so), or should the transferring FFL necessarily be in my home state (NJ)? I actually always thought the latter, but recently saw a discussion somewhere about buying non-compliant AR online, shipping it to some friendly PA FFL to get neutered there and then transferring it to NJ resident. Any practical experience dealing with NJ-unfriendly Cheaper Than Dirt? Has anyone succeeded to overcome their policy restriction and convince them to ship anything to NJ (because this pump-action shotgun is obviously NJ legal out of the box)? Thanks a lot!

That's kind of a scary trend :-( Apart from my already-known-and-described-here recent experience with Buds I have run into TWO MORE online stores lately that just don't ship ANYTHING to NJ (and to CA, NY as well). No explanation given, written somewhere in small font at the bottom of "Contact Us" section. I have to say, I am not very fond of our state either, but that's quite a rare situation in a free trade market, I'd say. If you let liquor stores sell booze and cigarettes to underage drinkers without penalizing them for doing so, they'd start doing it in a blink of an eye (or at least most of them). Reason is simple - it *expands* the market thus raising turnover, bringing higher profits etc. At the same time I rarely see sales people artificially *shrinking* market for themselves voluntarily... It's definitely something to think about. I just don't believe selling 22LR ammo even to a completely restricted state bears such a risk that it heavily outweights all possible proceeds from the sales... On the other hand, at times of elevated demand the market becomes a seller's market and it's not a customer choosing where to buy, but rather a salesperson choosing who to sell... Sick anyway...