DeerSlayer

I have one on my 10/22 great optic out to 100 yards and beyond.

There is actually a brewery tour, they will drive you in a van to all the breweries and brew pubs. http://burlingtonbrewtours.com/?gclid=CjwKEAiA0O2lBRDOrPX4oJP3t2oSJACjpaHAfeUtJUtpEUMVkrhcVh-_fA_mr9cneXUeS2qisNoKBxoC1RHw_wcB I did this last July when I was there for the brew fest. It's nice not to have to drive or worry about parking. They give you a brewery passport and you get a stamp at every stop on the card. If you go to the brew fest this summer you can cash in your passport for swag. Make sure you order some poutine someplace while your there. Here's Mrs. "BeerSlayer" eating some, from the Skinny Pancake. Great restaurant! the view of Champlain from the house we rented in Charlotte. (Pronounced Char-lott). at the brew fest more brew fest.

Ahhh thank you much better now...B)

Yeah I think the pickle dude is only at the Eagle arms show. That was in Plainfield today. This show was way closer.

I need therapy this week to get over the case of clostraphobia i now have. There wasn't much there that wasn't insane price wise bought two .357 speed loaders and two boxes of soft tip .22/250 for coyote hunting. Still had fun hanging with InFamous today. Beat hanging at home watching TV. Wishing the pickle dude was there. I did see one Mosin M38 that had no matching serial numbers, the bolt looked like it was at the bottom of a lake for a year and the rest of the rifle appeared to be drug behind a Jeep for some distance on a dirt road. They had the bargain price of $250 on it. I passed... some other pipe smoker had a couple bricks of bulk .22lr for $85 each. I thought about calling for an appointment for new contacts, because I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Kept on walking.

We thought of that already, so did the PA attorney General. No more NH non resident for us.

My second floor is accessible only by a set of metal spiral stairs. Pretty difficult to sneak up them. And it's a painful fall back down with a size 9 to the face at the top.

Yeah not worth sticking around if there's the potential for body piercing, you weren't planning on...

Ahhh my eye's! I'M BLIND!!!!

Exactly the reason there's an AR with the shortest barrel and brake combination I can legally own right under the bed.

Not likely I would have the option to retreat in my home anyway.

Good info ^^^ thanks.

I'm going!

I thought this post was going to be that a single stack 9mm was just introduced. And you sucked me into this thread for a Lousy G21 Gen 2 no less.... sheesh.... and it was a scam to boot! I feel violated.

If you have an Avenue of escape to your back when you pull the trigger your in some trouble. Your duty is to retreat if possible in NJ. No castle doctrine here I'm aware of. Now If you we're defending family inside the home that couldn't escape that changes things. Although chances are they're going to announce themselves.

I see a new M39 in my safe:) Going to Matamoris tomorrow, I'm looking for an M38 or a decent SKS, we'll see. Maybe I'll just leave with some awesome pickles lol...

Read all the statutes, including everything on the state police website on firearms laws. Some are difficult to understand and that's what some of us here can help explain to you. (We're not all lawyers) (although there are a couple on here) but many of us have a decent understanding of the statutes. Second buy Evan Nappen's "NJ Gun laws" orange book, some here may refer to it as the orange bible. Knowing the laws are really the first steps in firearm ownership (especially in NJ!). Sign up for and attend a Nappen seminar if possible. The next step after you know the rules is learning what you need, there are many choices some of us have different needs so we buy different guns to suit those needs. I personally want one of everything or two, three, ten ect (I'm addicted to buying and building guns). Then comes how to use it properly (training) all of these things are extremely important none should be taken lightly ever especially safety for obvious reasons. Get yourself some basic training and work your way up the ladder until your satisfied with your abilitys. I've been a gun owner for a very long time, since joining this forum I've learned things in the past year and a half I never knew, and never thought of. From guys here with way more knowledge than me. I once thought like you did about home defense with birdshot, I asked about it here and pretty much got the same answers you received in this thread. Then I really starting researching and found out I was an idiot. When you look at what bird shot does ballisticly you will get it. Shooting a person with it will probably just mame them not at all what you want for defense. It's a lot like hunting deer in a way the idea is ethical kills, minimal suffering for the animal. Although we're talking about taking a human life (big difference), if you have to do so make it quick, that's where the similarities lie. If someone were to take you out you would want it as fast as possible too. The idea of using a firearm for defense is to STOP the threat quickly and as efficiently as possible, and continue to shoot until threat has ceased. There's no shoot to wound, no shoot to warn. All things I thought different about until I began training as well. A person can cover 15' in less than 1 second. You need over 20' to draw and fire within less than a second. Without a firearm in condition zero and in hand, almost impossible to neutralize the threat before your accosted. No time for the second round sometimes. First round, the first time, everytime, that's how you have to think about this responsibility of defending yourself and family. I apologize for giving you a hard time earlier in the thread. hope you stick around, and continue to gain knowledge here. It's a great group of guys here that can guide you properly if you keep an open mind.

It's a hole punch, you never point it at anything you don't want a hole in. At least that's what my old man told me the first time he put a gun in my hand.

I always bring jumper cables just in case.

I'm thinking cooooooold! But I'm down to shoot. Figure out a date.

When they den up under a dead fall tree, they usually bury themselves in a depression in the earth and cover themselves in leaves for additional warmth, as well as consealment for protection of her cubs. Picture this: guy jumps off the dead tree and instead of solid ground under his feet steps on a sow and 4 cubs covered in a pile of leaves, that looks like leaves on the ground. Scary S#*t! I can totally see this happening. I have been climbing over dead falls every hunting season since Sandy knocked them all down. I will definitely be looking twice before I leap from now on after hearing this story. When I go out this March with the division biology team to tag cubs in dens, I will post pictures of what they look like in the den. Before they dart the sow and she gets up and goes crazy for a moment.

Also in Burlington, hit Fiddle Head, the pizza place next door is awesome too. And the Shelbourne winery is across the street. Switchback is great, and ya gotta stop at the Magic Hat arti-factory for a tour and tasting.

This ^^^^^^^

Think about this when your hanging with your Cell'ie, washing his laundry in a stainless steel toilet... Or the above statement could be engraved as your epitaph... Your view on home defense will end one of these two ways. Also a "shot shell" goes into a "Shotgun". Everyone knows a "cartridge" is in a pear tree. Or maybe a rifle?... :singing: and a cartridge in a pear tree....

Cool, good luck with the endeavor. Hopefully it works out, nice of you to help a Vet at the same time...