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Thanks guys I will check them out!

Just wondering what are the go-to vendors for holsters for full-size pistols with accessories like a light/laser on the front rail?

These biometric boxes are not really safes. I am less concerned with someone breaking in and stealing the whole box, as I am about kids or houseguests stumbling onto a weapon. You can have the most perfect safe in your drawer, it's useless if someone steals the whole drawer. We all know that. Hence I was less concerned with whether a small quick-access gunsafe was the penultimate permanent storage box, and more with a biometric safe that responds well and opens quickly and easily while providing enough of a deterrent to someone who stumbles onto it.

Thanks I have a separate safe too, tho I am looking specifically for something to keep in a drawer that pops up on open, that I could do in the dark one-handed if need be. Good to know someone has good success with another brand. Do you have to swipe your finger, or just place it on the glass? I know those are two different available mechanisms..

I understand there are MANY different implementations of biometric out there, home and residential, of varying qualities since biometrics were invented. I know some people have crap experiences, which is why other than THIS particular safe, those are irrelevant I am only interested if people had good/bad experiences with this particular biometric. (EDIT: or have had better experiences with a better biometric gunsafe!) As I said, this one has pushbutton and key entry as well, so the "dirty fingers" argument is sort of moot, I can pushbutton in just as with any other safe. At that point, the fact that the buttons are battery powered is the hinging factor. Speed of access is the same or better as non-biometric safes. I appreciate all the comments and feedback tho, gives me stuff to think about

The link throws a 404 error, is there an updated one??

Has anyone had any experience with this particular biometric safe? I am looking to pick one up or something very similar, top-open to be kept in a drawer. I like the idea of biometric for fast access but it also has pushbutton if your fingers are dirty as well as key-open as a last resort. I know most biometrics are pretty hit-or-miss, but this is one I have seen mostly positive reviews on. Just wondering if anyone here has one and what they think of it?

I love my Ruger Mark III Competition.

If the price was a little tighter than $1327... I do give RTSP my business for range time and ammo, but a difference of $240 is not just $25-$40. I wish it were, I'd love to buy it from you. Any way to meet closer in the middle?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=418632422 $1049.00 $0 shipping $0 tax $35 for my FFL (not including the $18 NJSP SBI, $2 per permit) It can be done, and the $242 I save goes towards a biometric lockbox. It may be few and far between, but I am not in any particular rush.

I know.. I have to get the bank check today for the state police..

As for the P220 Elite Stainless's weight, it clocks in at 39.1 oz, which is still LIGHTER than my Ruger Mark III Competition which comes in at 45 oz. Without doing more math, I am guessing 8 rounds of .45ACP weighs as much or slightly more than 10 rounds of .22LR, so in the end shooting the P220 SE weight-wize should feel really close to my Ruger. And yes, it's heavy, when I shoot 300 rounds through it at the range my shoulder does get sore (I don't know how competition guys do it one-handed!). But just on cost alone I won't be routinely putting 300 rounds through the Sig each visit to the range.

I appreciate that concern but if the gun functioned properly and I'm still alive, I would chalk it up to the cost of being able to walk away. Not that I expect my local PD to take and keep the gun forever or return it broken, but what happens after I am still alive and breathing is sort of secondary

Did some digging, apparently the P220 Elite comes in SAO, SA/DA, and DAK models.

Why do I remember reading somewhere that the Match Elite was SAO...

Thanks but the Match is SAO, I am looking for SA/DA.

Thanks for the offer but that is a haul from north jersey ok i messed up multi-quote, dunno how to undo it lol. Well because of the high cost, local places like RTSP charge like full retail. Honestly if I can shave $300 off the price using gunbroker or somewhere else, I will. I don't care if I order it from a local place or across the country, as long as they mail to my FFL it's all good. I just signed up for their notification, thanks!

You might think this is weird, but I've never shot the p220 elite stainless. I fell in love with some of its specs and its a great manuf, and everyone tells me to just buy it because I'll love shooting it. I bought my Ruger the same way, never shot it before i bought it, and now I love shooting it. I just can't find a place that has a p220 stainless elite in stock as a rental for me to shoot. RTSP never does, they never have one in stock to even sell. Is it insane to buy a gun you've never fired lol

No go on a full size Elite stainless (I think 220R-45-SSE)? Since I am not using it for carry, I wanted to get the larger heavier full size to help with the kick. Plus I was thinking a light/laser combo and I it looks better on the fullsize frame imho.

If someone could pm me the number for this Flynn guy I would appreciate it. I have heard of him before but I was able to find my Ruger online before needing him. GunWatcher seems like a great site (along with gunbot.net for ammo which I use) Thanks!

Yea for home defense I am set on .45 ACP. Should I trust gunsamerica.com they list it as 'manufacturer: smith & wesson'

A search right now for "P220 Stainless Elite -match -carry" comes up with two; one is NIB and $1200 the other is an Elite carry but not labeled as such..

Yes that is the one, the P220 Stainless Elite. Since I will not be carrying it, I am looking for the full-sized version. I have budgeted for the price. I am wary of buying used, as this would be primarily for home defense. I do not know enough on how to know if the gun was 'abused' or poorly cared for, especially if all I have to go by is a gunbroker write-up. While I want to believe that owners of the finer made firearms would take care of them, I really have no idea if a used gun would fire or not, or how screwed I would be. I assume that's something I can take to sat a place like RTSP and ask for some kind of inspection or verification that the gun is functional and trustworthy? Believe me to save a few bucks I would love to go used..

I have been looking to buy a P220 Stainless Elite for over a year, using sites like gunbroker, and this model is basically never to be found. Maybe, MAYBE 1 on auction every month or so. It's like Sig stopped making them or something. Does anyone know what's going on at Sig, are they ditching the P220 product line? It should'nt be this hard to buy one.. :/

Ok phew It's a beautiful pistol and I don't want to screw it up right out of the gate! Thanks!