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I notice the Vernon event is limited to .22 caliber. On the outside chance I get my FID in time for this (I've been advised early-to-mid November, I hope I'm not just setting myself up for disappointment ), what do you recommend I shoot, a simple bolt-action rifle, or an AR style? 1. My current long-gun experience is minimal 2. I don't expect to get much use out of a .22 3. I plan on most of my long-gun shooting being on AR-style platforms I wonder if learning on a bolt-action will better for learning fundamentals. And as an added bonus, it will be much cheaper. But I also wonder if an AR style rifle will better prepare me for the type of rifle I plan on doing most of my shooting on? Any thoughts?

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I was thinking that as well, but fortunately they cooperated. For what it's worth, none of my references, their employer, nor my employer were contacted. My guess (and it's just a guess) is that my PD only contacts people if there's something on your record that presents a red flag.

Questions on my reference form: 1. How long have you known the applicant? 2. In what capacity have you known the applicant? (Example: friend or neighbor) 3. Applicant's address? 4. Name of applicant's employer? 5. Are you aware of any substance abuse by the applicant? 6. Do you have any knowledge of a physical or mental handicap that would affect the safe handling of a firearm? 7. Please fill in the following information about yourself: Address, Phone, Employer, Employer phone #, Employer Address 8. Indicate why you feel this applicant is capable of owning and handling a firearm (includes a full page of blank lines for you to write, but both of my references only wrote a couple lines).

Hopefully Bloomfield will be faster than Clifton. What really annoys me is that the detective told me back in early September that i was in good shape to receive everything in October. So at the beginning of the month, I went and ordered a pistol, AR lower, and signed up for a GFH Urban Pistol class (for tomorrow!) thinking I'd have everything. Unfortunately, everything is still waiting at the LGS, and I had to give up my spot in class. He now says next two weeks is likely, but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment again.

I'd love to know as well. I'm in Passaic County, and while mental health checks have been an issue, I was able to confirm back on Sept 3 that the detective was in possession of my results and I'm still without FID. I know the NJSP isn't an issue because I reached out to them and they told me that they responded the same day Morphotrak submitted my fingerprints. I now know why the detective is so vague on the steps involved in the application. He knows everyone would get pissed off if they found out 2 months of the process involves your application sitting in a pile just waiting for someone to get to it.

I could have sworn reading that this ammo has overly hard primers. I take it that you disagree?

In Clifton, they give you the letters to hand over to your references. But given that I'm more than 13 weeks in for an initial FID (apparently my FID/permits have spent the past month sitting in a pile simply waiting to be typed up and signed by CLEO) I hesitate to put them in the "great" classification.

I'm very interested, but the one thing that stuck out at me for the currently scheduled Nov class is the low round count (100 rounds, which I can blow through at the range in a half hour). I can understand the quality vs quantity argument, but it still doesn't seem to be much considering I'd have to drive a couple hours to get there. Of course, I'm a newbie at this so feel free to straighten me out. Edit: Thanks for the response, count me in.

Handguns 1. Springfield XD 9mm Service - (already at the FFL awaiting my permit). Will eventually add a Springer Precision trigger, and send to Robar/Springfield Custom for undercut trigger and grip reduction/treatment 2. Sig Sauer P229 Enhanced Elite 9mm, with .22lr and .40sw conversion kits (.22lr to shoot cheap ammo and have something for new shooters that I bring to the range to start with, .40s&w just for the heck of it. 3. Springfield XDs 9mm - Seems to fit the bill as a range-friendly carry gun. Liking the relatively smaller size with the added security of a grip safety, but still an enjoyable range shooter. 4. S&W 686 Plus 3" barrel - Just to have a revolver in the collection. Something specific about the 3" barrel sings to me. 5. Steyr M9-A1 - Attracted to its relative uniqueness 6. Single stack 1911, TBD - Just to have a .45acp gun for variety Long Guns 1. 14.5" carbine (already have a BCM upper and a matching fully assembled lower is at the FFL awaiting my FID) 2. 12 gauge Shotgun with 18.5" and 26"+ inch barrels, leaning toward a Winchester SXP 3. Longer-range AR with 18" barrel, TBD 4. Beretta CX4 Storm - because it's 9mm and looks badazz! 5. Bolt action rifles in .22lr and .308, TBD. Remington 700? Guns I want but can't have in NJ 1. Any semi auto shotgun with a pistol grip/stock combo 2. 10.5" SBR with suppressor 3. Any full auto, though with the pricing I've seen, I don't think I could afford it even if I could have it.

With our 9-year old Dyson not doing so well, we picked up a Hoover Tunnel Rewind based on favorable Consumer Reports reviews. Excellent suction and pretty cheap. Only cons are its relatively short cord (which is retractable) and somewhat cheap plasticky feel to it. Dyson featured a lot more options and felt more solidly built, but given the Hoover seem much better at picking up dirt and much cheaper price, I'm glad we didn't go with a new Dyson. Note our comparison isn't apples to apples since we're comparing a brand new Hoover with a very old Dyson. I can't say how they'd compare on equal footing. Also, I can't speak to the Hoover's longevity since we've only had it maybe 6 months or so.

I noticed a winged baby flying appeared and started flying around the black hole. I clicked on it, and it unlocked the 2nd page of upgrades. It shows 3 items, that are still currently locked to me (about 74 trillion in meth, $35 trillion dollars).

Just curious if anyone knows the story behind their sales of magazines "temporarily" blocked to 15 rounds? Were these magazines with just loose mag blocks inside? Or were they secured in a manner not sufficient enough to be considered permanent?

In my particular case, the mental health check wasn't an issue, and I confirmed this with the detective. So I reach out to the mayor last week and he actually responds he'd look into it! He gets back to me this week having been told that the State is holding up applications, but he'd look into it further. I assume "State" was a reference to the NJSP, but he wasn't specific. Lunker's comment here inspired me to call the NJSP. After being bounced around to a few different extensions, I finally landed at the Criminal Investigations Unit. According to them, the background check is initiated by Morphotrak the same day I'm fingerprinted, and the results are returned back to my PD via teletype the same day. I've forwarded that info along, so let's see what happens. I'll also add that everyone at NJSP was much more polite than I was expecting.

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One thing to keep in mind if you're considering buying out-of-state from a private seller is that Paypal is anti-gun and doesn't allow firearm transactions, legal or otherwise. So if you get screwed on a transaction that's funded with an existing balance or checking account, you're out of luck and may even get your account locked on top of that. You might still have recourse through your credit card company if funded that way, but I don't have first hand experience there.

From talking to the detective handling my application, I'm under the impression that he has everything he needs from third parties, and the only thing holding me back is him getting to run "certain checks", but there are a pile of applicants ahead of me in line. I don't have any illusions of trying to change the system, and I'm certainly not even going to try threatening legal action. I'm just looking for something that will get my application pulled out of the middle of the stack and moved to the top. Now he seemed pretty certain that I'd have it by month end, but I'm just sick and tired of waiting. I don't think I should need to feel grateful because mine was processed in 4 months while someone else going directly through NJSP is waiting 6+ months, and it just freaking gets me steamed that just across the border in PA someone has more trouble trying to buy a six-pack of beer than they do a shotgun! Now, I'm pissed....I think I'm going to blow-off some steam by stealing some Booker for Senate signs....

Thanks!

Does anyone have the exact statute that requires a 30 day turnaround on FID/permits? I just learned my mayor is Republican and not on Bloomberg's list of gun-grabbing mayors. I'm going to write him, hope he'll be sympathetic and see if he can push things along.

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I'm surprised at the relative lack of gun tattoos! Here's one of mine:

Heh, I'm scared to try out a CZ-75, especially because I might like it so much! I pretty much set on what I'll be using my first 3 permits for, and I'll look into the CZ for the next set. Heck, I might explore requesting 6 next time, with the expectation of extending the last few. In fact, I'm calling local PD today to follow-up. I was told everything would be ready in October. And Shawn, I'd love to know about a P229 source, though it will probably be several weeks before I can buy, and I am picky on the model I want (E2 grip and preferably the reduced reach trigger due to my small hands).

I'm wondering about those exchange kits. So for example, is your p229 with a .40 exchange kit exactly identical to a factory .40 caliber p229? Or is there some sort of reliability or ammo pickiness issue?

Still being without FID I've been relying on rentals to hone my skills. I usually shoot a Springfield XD9, but it was out so I decided to try out the Sig P229 just for the heck of it. I thought, "No chance in hell I'm buying a $1000 gun. Let me just try this thing out so I'll know that it isn't any better than guns half the price". Wrong! I couldn't have been more accurate with this gun if I had walked up to the target and poked holes in it by hand. The E2 grip felt really good, and I thinking the metal frame helped soak up the recoil. I already have an XD9 enroute, but a P229 will be my next purchase (better starting digging in the sofa for extra coins). Anyone have an opinion on beavertailed models, e.g. enhanced elite? I did a general search on the 'net and seem to get conflicting opinions. I love the look, won't be carrying it. But my main concern is that it might force a lower grip on the gun.

I can't speak for Midway, but I just placed an order with Sportsman Outdoor Superstore for a gun with 16 round mags (and a couple extra mags as well). They sent me an e-mail stating they either they would need to exclude the mags, or I could cancel the order. I called them up and explained that it would be going to an FFL (Monmouth Arms) that would be modifying the mags to be NJ compliant. They said it was fine, but they'd need to talk to him to confirm. I gave them Steven's number, and I don't know what they discussed, but all I know is I now have a Fedex tracking #!