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Correct. I think it's more like the NJSP reports back to the municipality as to whether or not they have any further information on the individual, based on their SBI #. The municipality then decides how to interpret it. Remember, the State criminal background check is for the issuance of the docs. NICS is more about "eligibility to purchase a firearm" in a federal context. Is there overlap? Most likely. But NICS exists for federal purposes, especially for states that don't require the extra bureaucracy that NJ etc. require. NICS is a federal system, operated by the FBI. It's purpose is to ensure that, from a federal perspective, a prospective gun buyer is in not a "prohibited person" and is entitled to purchase the gun. A state has the option of having its FFL's contact NICS directly, or becoming a "Point of Contact" (POC) state, meaning that the State will contact the FBI on behalf of the FFL. The FFL enters the required info to the "state's" NICS system, and the State then passes it onto the FBI NICS system. Pennsylvania, like NJ, (and like Florida) is a POC state. Thus PICS is the Pennsylvania NICS POC for PA FFLs. NJ has one also, operated by the NJSP. Florida uses the FDLE (Fl. Dept. of Law Enforcement, the Investigative authority in FL, similar to Georgia's GBI). One reason a state might do this is to be able to enforce any state laws regarding waiting periods in between handgun purchases or other such restrictions (eg. NJ's OGAM). I'm sure there are others. Hope this helps.

Well, also, remember that it's the local municipality (or the affected NSJP barracks) that is doing that 212A check for issuing FID/P2Ps. And Only NJ (and/or other Nanny States) do this. When you're actually purchasing a firearm, it's a federal NICS check, per Federal law, but some states piggy back onto that by being POC states (NJ is one). It's the only way NJ can enforce things like OGAM. So, it's a different kind of check for the State.

Yes. For each STS-033 turned in, you have to get a criminal background check. Most municipalities are using the electronic 212A form, which costs $20.00 (previous paper version cost $18.00). The reason you didn't do it (most likely) for your initial FID and P2Ps, is that you probably paid about $60.00 to get fingerprinted (usually by Safran Morpho), and that was the initial criminal background check.

I know. Both Broward and Dade counties are our "problem children" in re: NE Transplants. Leon County (Tallahassee) and Duval County (Jacksonville) are of general concern in re: local "native" populations of "people who want free stuff" and who, therefore, vote in "anti" politicians. But, otherwise, we're pretty strong.

We don't let them in.

They do, here in Florida. Because they know they don't want the NJ mentality ever coming down here! And there are enough of us here from NJ to remind them of what it was like.

Cave Diving

Precisely.

My SimpliSafe components arrived today. I'll be busy putting it together and I'll let you know how it goes. All the individual components are battery powered, it seems and have double stick strips for mounting. The base station does indeed have two RJ 11 jacks for an optional wired operation. I'll get back to you when it's operational.

Thank you Dwight, and thank you for hanging in there with us!

Doesn't he provide Squishies and Donuts for Homer? I know..... "Auxilliary Power Unit..."

Wow! So this went out on WNET Ch 13? WOW! We are making some progress!

Good video. Good Message. So, NJTV is an OTA digital broadcast network? Maybe we are making some progress? What broadcast digital channel is it in the NY/NJ area? Or is it an Internet channel (like Newsmax)?

I just went with Simplisafe, so I'll let you know in a bit. BTW, Simplisafe has a "wired" option. If you choose, you can connect the base to a land line via wire. I'm going to try it without that connection, as I want to place the base centrally in the house, and the existing RJ-11 jacks aren't "hot." I have both VoIP and cellular.

I think there might be some confusion in re: that "450" figure. IIRC, that's the number of permits issued "in 2014." Roughly half were issued by the NJSP (which might include some retired LEOs and "non residents"), and the other half via local PD and county judge. So, again, that may have been 450 permits issued "in 2014," but that isn't necessarily how many permits are "currently active." That number may be a bit larger as not every permit has to be renewed every year, correct? I believe it's once every two years. So maybe there are 1100-1300 permits "currently active," with 450 newly issued or "renewed" each year. I'd like to know how many permits are "currently active."

Which makes me wonder, then, who set that goal and, perhaps, was it set artificially high as to make our effort and numbers "puny and impertinent..."

Feel free to do so, if you can. I brought it here from my Florida Forum.

There is now a White House Petition activated to stop the above bill (HR 4269) - The Assault Weapons ban of 2015/2016. It needs 100,000 signatures by 01/16/2016. It has only 5557 as of this writing. Passing it along so all can sign. Please pass this onto other 2A forums. White House Petition - Stop the Assault Weapons Ban of 2015...

Ah, OK. So you can't file the application on day 1, receive the permit on day 2, and do a transfer on days 2-7. Never applied to me as it always took at least two weeks. So I could use them immediately upon delivery.

I trust they have a veto proof majority for that....

Perhaps not *all* those who handle large sums of money. Recall the gentleman who owned the ATM/Vending business who was denied, and for whom the judge said, "Find another line of work..."

Humidity might, of course, not be the only issue. Temperature as well. Is the garage under "climate control?" I'd want the safe on the inside for not only temp. & humidity, but also "access." I'd want the safe in my "bunker room" that I go to when under attack (or close to it).

I'm not aware of any. I always believed I could march right down to my FFL once I got the doc in hand. And I think I did that, once or twice. And mine were always made available with 1-2 days of signature. The only waiting period of which I'm aware is OGAM.

Independence Twp (Warren County) consistently took 16 calendar days for 2 consecutive sets of P2Ps.

But, again, "all" permits or only "resident" permits (like PA)? One article I read today seemed to imply it would be only "resident" permits... which would render my UT permit useless there... I guess we'll have to see how it shakes out...