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Read what I said... It was *not* the law when I took driver's ed in NJ. It was not the law the last time I brushed up on NJ driver law. It already was the law in FL at that point, which is why I checked NJ to compare. Wasn't there yet.. But I started doing it anyway... because it makes sense.

And that's my point. They need to learn that before they travel there or any place where they're not familiar with the laws, crappy, unconstitutional, or otherwise. No, you shouldn't have to worry about it... but the hard reality is, here and now, it *is* the law, and you need to worry, if you want to avoid the fate/hassle of Shaneen Allen or Brian Fletcher. Yes, they're bad laws, and yes they need to be changed/abolished. But until they are, they're still in effect and should be learned and understood by anyone that travels to a "non-free" state like NJ.

Well, if I intend to drive in that other state for some significant period in time, I might brush up on their motor vehicle and traffic laws (Just to ensure there's nothing really "quirky"), most of which are Googleable... For example, NJ never emphasized this (when I was taking Driver Ed.), but in FL, when approaching an emergency vehicle parked on the shoulder of a highway, you must either change lanes to get out of its way, or slow down, or both. And our point is, "they're very easy to learn...." if one just puts forth an effort and uses those resources I mentioned above... handgunlaw.us is one of the very best resources and is kept up to date. The problem is, no one bothers to put forth that effort. They live in a "free state," and think the laws are the same everywhere, so they don't bother. They *need* to bother. I'm reminded of a TV PSA in the 70's about US Citizens doing illegal drugs in Europe... It was narrated by Hal Holbrook. The catch phrase/sound byte being, "When you're busted for drugs over there, you're in for the hassle of your life..."

USA Carry.com Handgunlaw.us Evan Nappen - NJ Gun law Book

I changed from my PO box on the DL to my street address on the DL (this... before I left NJ). So my DL had the sticker on it before I renewed my NJ DL for the last time. No issues with my original NJ PD.

That's my concern as well... The anti's can turn this into a "We need stronger background checks and.... (dare I say it...)... registration!!!"

That's the one I quoted above.... but he says it isn't it. I do think it's the same family we're talking about, though.

This article, right? Here's another of interest... NJ Schools should have LEOs present... Christie Panel study...

I, too, have moved to FL from NJ in early March. I took all my "inventory" with me when I left. I packed all the pistols in a back pack (containing the secure metal cases) in the SUV via FOPA rules (in the back and inaccessible to the driver). I was able to remove the back pack at the overnight stop in SC and bring it into the hotel room. Next morning, I put the back pack back into the SUV in its proper place and kept on going to FL. The next morning (Monday) I was in the county tax collector's office (which is where most Floridians go to do DL related stuff) and got my new Fl. DL. Problem solved. I did not, however, tear up my FPID or the last P2P I had. I want to save them as a reminder of what I went through up in NJ and why I'm so thankful I'm not there anymore. Neither are valid any longer, so that means I never again show up in NJ with any of my guns... ever!

Hmmmm.... yeah it seems like he's trying to blame the legislature, but as Hannity pointed out, an EO which clarifies "justifiable need" could work wonders....

So sorry for your loss. The land owner where I'm renting a house in FL right now has a "ginger" golden 9yo male. He and I have gotten to know each other very well. I know I'll miss him when I move out into my own place there.

Precisely. I was arguing that on my Florida forum, Some begged to disagree, but I don't see any other viable explanation. Some said he may have acquired the weapon thinking it was a real 9mm, but that's kinda weird....

There was quite a bit of damage from yesterday's thunderstorm in Hackettstown. Power was out for 5-7 hours. All is restored, now, though.

Yeah, I though the "Southern Gentleman" thing was a bit disingenuous...

Funny you mention that.... because Mass. has those gun law warning signs as you enter the state on Major Highways, etc. like I-195.

Here's the News Article - Retired US Marine takes on Street Gang and winds up in Jail - And his picture -

And, you might be asked to leave by the NJ Transit Police... No "loitering..."

Funny, but I find more people are speed freaks there, especially up north. Then again, the speed limits are often 60-65+ on even country/rural roads... Of course, the speeds gradually slow down to 30 as you approach and enter a town center. Then they go back up again.

Oh, OK. I thought you meant strictly from a 2A context...

You're probably safe in FL anywhere above I-4. Perhaps even central FL. It's "Southern" FL you have to worry about (Dade County. Broward County, etc.)...

Precisely.... We are constantly vigilant about that in Florida, as there is always a threat from the southern part of the state (i.e. all the Northeast "antis" that move down there)... As Anthony Collandro always says, "What happens in NJ doesn't stay in NJ..."

Typical of the MSM. I can't begin to tell you how many "Capital Punishment" articles I've read where they all talk about different prison facilities, but the picture is always the death chamber in Huntsville, Tx... I guess their logic is, "well, that's the one with which the sheep are familiar (since they see it all the time)..."

Perhaps, a more "subdued" shirt. There has to be some form of "brand advertisement" for what the cause is... But I agree with finding the different venues to canvas people who are eligible to sign and vote. If one finds the different venues and just shows up, it might make it difficult for the opposition to be able to shut us down. But, conversely, we also need to ensure that people don't "sign twice" and invalidate the original signature.

Just so you know, this story does have national recognition, as there's a huge thread on it on my Florida Gun forum....

There are places I used to order from (eg. Midway USA) that have recently asked for that documentation, since they last shipped to my NJ address. I just simply changed the address to my new Fl address. We'll see if they ask for it now...