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Would you have a link to the form we could see? ORI #s are just "municipal codes." The big question I guess is, "which municipal code" (i.e. the one where you live, or where you might be working, potentially)? What agency is conducting the "background check?" Would it be the NJSP SBI (on behalf of the Div. of Consumer Affairs)? Perhaps, they could tell you which ORI to use....

Funny.... I notice it's disappeared from the Yahoo! "Trending" timeline... about 2-3hrs after it was trending a the top! But the one advocating safety training for kids (spun as: NRA to students: Want to move up to the next grade? Learn how to shoot a gun ) is still trending after a day or so...

And I'd consider it, if I knew I'd be staying another 10+ years or so....

Unfortunately, where I live, it would have to be a conversion to "methane" and connected to the main gas line. Bottled gas is against fire safety regs in a multiple unit dwelling (like a townhouse).

They can easily keep a lobbying office in the Alexandria/Quantico area for that. But the HQ should move along with the operations, and send a statement to MD, The tricky part, though, is how they handle the "displaced" employees. I see they are being very careful to offer transition assistance to TN or elsewhere within the company, and that is a good thing.

I have one, but then again I also spend a bit of time in FL every year. I also have Utah and Arizona for "cross reciprocity" should something change in one of the states.

Welcome from Warren County, NJ! My sister is also retiring from the NJARNG later this year.

Well, this is two good discussions on the subject in one day! The other being this "Washington Post" article... Let's hope we can keep the media momentum going!

Excellent article in (of all places ) The Washington Post! Lays the whole thing out. I'm amazed to see this there.

I just took my 18 y/o niece to HG Easton for the first time today (her first time shooting). She was able to shoot all my guns (P226 9mm, Shield 9mm, and even the Para Expert 1911 ,45acp). She also took the "Handgun 101 for women only" course and shot .22LR revolver and semi-auto pistol. Was the best shot in the class! Her groupings where freakin' scary good for her "first time." She will definitely be back. My 14 y/o nephew is next.

And clean the inside of your windshield regularly. Just because you hide the GPS in your glove box doesn't mean they won't look for it if they see the " vacuum spot" on your window.

How would you prove it was "them," anyway? Did you have surveillance on the driveway?

Ahem..... Sussex, Warren, Hunterdon, Morris?????

Agreed. Of course, the standard "official" LE response to that would be, "She ruined her own life by violating the law." But, like you say, if there was ever a case where the LEO could have offered a bit of "discretion" and *should* have, it's this one. What I want to know is, why the LEO didn't. Likewise, why didn't the AG (the acting prosecutor) offer PTI. Until either/both explain why, I'm only left to speculate that they want to make an example out of her as a "law abiding" gun owner, and that their war isn't against the "criminal" (which they realize they can't control) but against the law abiding citizen (which they *can* control and want to control, such that we don't ever get *out of* control). As stated earlier, I believe that effort will fail, as her defense could (with the help of a bit of social and other media) paint her as a martyr, and make those going after her look like mega-monsters. Really depends on the LEO and their motivations. Technically, yes, it's a violation. After all, a LEO could issue a speeding ticket for going 1 mile over the limit. The question is, what would motivate the LEO to put in the effort to make the bust and do all that bureaucracy, paperwork, court appearances, etc.? Is it the LEO's personal belief/preference? Did they actually feel "threatened" by the presence of the person and/or concealed weapon? Was it a directive from "senior management" to bust people for this (i.e. "zero tolerance")? That's why I want to know why the LEO busted her instead of using that "discretion." I think the fact that the AG/prosecutor is not offering PTI is a significant "tell" that there's some political pressure coming from somewhere. My last juror instance was the same thing. The case should have never come to trial, given what little evidence the prosecutor presented. Yet, there we were, deliberating. I suspect they went to trial because the county district atty. is from the same town wherein the incident occurred, and the defendant grew up in the area originally but was visiting from "out of state (also PA)," and there may have been some "local town" political pressure to bring the defendant to trial anyway. They did, I guess, hoping that the jury would "reverse nullify." We didn't. I posted on this before... You can read about the trial in this thread. The only concern there being, if the LEO was really fishing to bust her for something (anything), and she kept quiet, and the LEO effected a search (i.e. he suddenly "smelled a certain odor" coming from the car)... it could have gone much much worse for her...

I have to agree with the others. Find a way to live in PA and commute to NJ. Difficult, I realize. Your work location is in Moorestown. You could easily get to Philly from the suburbs on SEPTA (don't live in Philly either for the same reasons.... ). The trick will be finding transportation from Philly to Moorestown. That, or finding the right time to commute. I'd avoid the Schuylkill Expressway(Walt Whitman Br.). I'm not sure the Ben. Franklin Bridge would be any better. An alternative might be the Christina area of Delaware. There are a couple of options there. You can go on the Del. Memorial bridge to NJ and then up US 130 or I-295. Or, you could go up I-495 to I-95 and across the Cmdr. Barry Bridge. Nothing is terribly good, but there are some alternatives. The only thing that's really bad is actually living in NJ.

From the beginning of all this, I have always believed that the punishment far exceeds the crime. And I'm also totally frustrated with the decision to "make an example" out of this lady and not offer PTI. I think they're making a colossal mistake with that. I mean, it's not like she's some thug that was looking to commit crimes, etc. If I were on her defense team, I'd play up on the MSM what's going on, wherever they'd listen, and make her a martyr (and make the prosecutors look totally evil) for going after her. I'd be on Channel 12 (or "Chasing NJ") or whatever every day until it got noticed/picked up. How so, "mind boggling?" And be careful how far "inland" you go. At least one good thing about NJ is that they don't allow "fracking" here, thus potentially contaminating that water...

I'm not saying there is a prohibition on the use of the word. I'm only saying that use of the word in this context, when there is no true emergency, carries consequences that the user should face for using it improperly or maliciously.

Welcome from Warren County, NJ!

Well, that was my concern in re: the sighting near our recycling center. There's a long tract back there were dog owners let their dogs run and play Frisbee, etc.

Weeeeeeeelllllll now.... I wouldn' say thaaaaaaaaattt! I think people get the gist of it anyway. Just something you know now for the next time.

Just curious... on two of the questions you allow people to make multiple selections (i.e. check box). But on the other two, you only allow one choice per question (radio button). Was that by design?

A week ago, there was a warning from our PD to our property manager. Sightings of two adults and two cubs right on the property grounds, in front of someone's unit, and near the recycling center (where many people walk there dogs and play Frisbee, etc.). Residents were warned to bring outdoor "bird feeders" indoors and keep them there. The PD would not respond to bear calls at places where they see an outdoor bird feeder. Also, all the dumpsters have to stay closed and the gates around them shut (but not locked). And yes, I have pictures: and

Excellent! Bet the MSM will never broadcast it!

Apparently, you can, on the muzzleloader range, if you do so within the "special rules" for the Clinton WMA. I'll find out more since I'll be going for my hunting license next week.

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