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That, and the MSM. If we could, somehow, just get some equally competitive resources to fight the lies and propaganda spewed by them, we might have a change to convert the sheeples.

Excellent! We need many more of "us" down here. What we don't need are more of "them..."

Yes, right now. But that can all change with the stroke of a pen, assuming the wrong person gets elected Gov. as you have just seen. We'll see. Maybe also if the wrong people get elected to the legislature as well. 2018 is our year to elect a new Gov. and update the legislatures. We also have a US Senator to elect. The GOP front runner for the Senate position is our current Gov., Rick Scott, who signed those recent gun control bills into law (now we know why). But, considering his opponent will be Bill Nelson - D (incumbent), we may have to hold our nose and vote Scott in (I know many a Floridian that doesn't want to do that, but...). Very unstable times for us here in FL. We have to hope that all the pro2A folks come out and vote, especially in the primaries to set up the right candidates for the general election! If we want to get the RINOs out, the primary is the time to do it. When it's time to vote in the general, we have to ensure the GOP party stays in control, or we'll be truly screwed.

The surrounding areas, perhaps (Nassau County, Clay County, Baker County, etc), but Duval County./City of Jacksonville itself, not so much. Heavy population of "Free stuff" folks, and the politicians that make it happen.

Well, what we are doing is making the dividing line I-4, but with that little hump around Orange County that includes Orlando. Since my county is north of Hillsborough (and I-4), I should be good. Actually, our Sheriff is very pro-2A anyway. It's the Hillsborough and Pinellas County Sheriffs that aren't)... And there's still Tallahassee and Jacksonville to deal with as well.

Unfortunately, that wouldn't work too well, here. While most of the "blue" part of the state is in the south, there are some parts of it up north (Orlando, part of Tampa Bay, Tallahassee, Jacksonville, etc. etc.). You'd have to "gerrymander" something to make it reasonable, but...

Well, right now, it seems to be confined to Broward County, where I would expect it to be exploited there. And, as the article says, there are some legal challenges to the law, which I'm sure Florida Carry (our equivalent of ANJRPC) are pursuing vigorously.

Agreed.There are neighborhoods that are free of them and yet don't attract the "Trailer park" element....

Fair enough. Mountainous areas are a very nice place to visit, but I'm not sure I'd want to live there. Unless I could live on top of one and had easy access to the valley areas. But it really depends. I did like the mountains in Arizona.

I picked Florida for a number of different reasons. In re: weather, I much prefer to get as far away as I can from the cold and the snow, in particular. Hated shoveling it, driving in it (and the ice), and dealing with it. So glad I don't have to, now. If weather isn't a concern for you, then westward might be the way to go (Kansas, Wyoming, etc.) But be sure you can find work there if you need to. As for Alaska, you might also consider if you are affected, personally by the disparity of day vs. night, especially during the extreme parts of the season (summer and winter solstice). There's a reason why Anchorage has something like 3 shrinks per capita living there.

I have seen cold enough temps to have frost in Sarasota, but that was a long time ago. So far, it's been no colder than the upper 50's in Tampa in the dead of winter (Jan-Feb).

Firefox has been just fine, for me.

I'm pretty sure there are several such plots in my family reserved for me. And I'm sure there are people in my family that want me put in one, if only for their own convenience. But I will have none of it. I'm going out the way I want to. I just have to find someone (probably not someone in the family) who will do things the way I want them done, not the way they want or "what they think is best." I want a "direct cremation" (right from the deathbed to the crematorium - no embalming, no expensive casket, no funeral, nothing). And then I want my remains scattered at a location only the person doing the scattering will know, at first. After that, my family can do whatever it wishes. I don't want any remnants of me left on this Earth when Armageddon comes or the Earth Blows up. Point being, I wouldn't let those plots reserved for you (in the future) to affect your decisions, today. Live life at your pleasure, not theirs. If it's meant for you to occupy one of those plots, when its time (and if that's what you want), I'm sure they'll have you sent back for that purpose. I'd just ensure I could find some one who would be able to carry out my wishes exactly as I want them done, and can stand up to the family pressure.

Most of those being in the Mid-West where the weather is not ideal (Snow, Cold, Tornadoes, etc. etc.) as well as fewer jobs. There are other reasons I chose, Florida besides 2A, and why I'm willing to fight for it.

I'm not warning them off. I'm not saying, "don't come here." I'm saying, "consider carefully, because you'll be in for a fight." A fight (that in FL's case) I think that's worth fighting, nonetheless. I don't want people coming here that aren't prepared to fight for it.

Here is the Guns & Ammo ranking list for 2017 (again, prior to Parkland, etc.).. I tend to favor this list as the criteria seem a bit more objective. I do agree, though, that Fl will go down quite a few notches in re: the 2018 list.

Hey, Dana Loesch endorses Kel-Tec. They are made in Florida.

Just out of curiosity, what about a Thompson with drum mags (i.e. "Chicago Typewriter")?...

Excellent! You know the full route, right? i-78 W--> I-81 S --> I-77 S (just past Roanoke and through VA, NC and SC). I used to stop off in Richburg, SC. If you can, you might want to make a quick stop right as you cross the SC State Line from NC. There's a huge Cabela's right there on the State line. It's only 3 years old. Furthermore, I-77S (down to Columbia) ---> I-26 E --> back onto i-95 S). If you want a good place to stop for fuel and lunch in SC, after you get back onto I-95, stop off in Walterboro (Ex. 57 - SC highway 64 E). Proceed on SC 64 E, for a mile or so to Robertson Blvd. Left onto Robertson Blvd, and the follow Robertson Blvd across US 15/501. After you cross, look for "Dukes BBQ" on the left. The best BBQ around the area and it's served Buffet Style ~$12,00, all you can eat. Pulled Pork, Fried chicken, Ribs, and excellent southern sides. But be careful when you travel there. It's closed on Mon-Tues. but open Wed - Sun. If you go through on Sun, get there before 11am, because it will fill up quickly with the Sunday brunchers that are just coming out of Church. Also, they close early on Sun. (at 2pm). They're open until 9p on all the other days they're open. Also, if you have the choice of stopping for fuel in NC vs SC, pick SC. Cheaper fuel/taxes.

I loved going though there when I was doing all that moving. I would take I-81 south from PA. I used to stop off at the Throx Market Station in Winchester for food/fuel. They had decent crab cakes. It would be a straight 4 hours from that point to where i was living in NJ (i.e. I-81 to I-78 E).

Compliment or complaint? Just be aware of how they're billing you. Many movers will bill either by the hour (if it's a local move). or by "cubic footage" if it's a long distance move, be sure they're packing the pick up truck efficiently and not wasting space. They charge a lot extra if you go over the cubic footage estimate. Anyway, best of luck to you

Oh, it was happening long before Hogg. Hogg just amplified it. The Florida Retail Federation and "the Rodent" are two of the forces in favor of Gun control, and they have the $$$ to get to the politicans that keep pro-2A legislation off the committees, and off the House/Senate Floor in FL. I get that NJ is done, on several different levels. And I get that it's more than just 2A, but Taxes, bureaucracy, Nanny State stuff, regulations, etc. etc. I just wish I could get my mom and sister (and family) to move away. But they're too invested in it. And (even worse), my niece and nephew have decided to stay "at home" while they pursue their higher education (my nephew in Jr. College, and my niece in Physical Therapy school (she just graduated from Univ. Of MD with her bachelors, and is doing a "remote" program from USC where she has to go there for a couple of weeks, twice a year). So I don't think they're going to move any time soon.

Well, in that case, there are several different variables. First, do you have permanent or temporary housing at your destination? Do you need all your permanent belongings while you are "in transition?" How much do you have to move and how far to your destination? I can only relay my own experience. I made the first "official" move to FL in March of 2015. I found a house for rent rather cheap (on a 1.75 acre plot). It was a month-to-month lease. This, because still I had yet to sell my townhouse in NJ, although I was working toward that. I was also dealing with the eventual death of my Godmother and being her "Power of Atty" and, subsequently, the executor of her Estate. That took me back and forth to/from Wash DC while dealing with that. Still, I got my townhouse in NJ sold in July, 2015. I was then able to start shopping for a place in FL which I found and closed on in Sept. 2015. For my first move (in March), I simply packed my vehicle with all my computers, active electronics, etc., and, of course, my "inventory..." and brought it all to FL, to my rental house (Landlord is former LEO, pro-2A very much - I had no problems), along with all the clothes I needed. I declared my FL residency and began that process of becoming a FL citizen. The next major event was clearing the NJ townhouse of enough clutter to make it ready for sale) For that, I rented one of those PODS containers and packed what I could in it, That was about $3K including 3 months of storage.After the hosue was sold and I needed to clear out everything, I called a moving van to get rid of the rest of it. I also had some things stored in "storage lockers" locally in NJ as well as with a neighbor in my old 'hood. The moving company charged me roughly $7000.00 to move the bulk of my belongings to FL. At the time, I still did not have my permanent housing in FL, so all of that property had to go into a larger storage locker in FL. Both the moving van content and the PODS content were placed there. Obviously, a lot cheaper to pay for the storage locker than have it stored by PODS. At this time I was also involved in cleaning out my Godmother's condo in DC and dealing with all her stuff as well, some of which also went into that storage locker. At least, at this point, all of my belongings were now in Fl. Once I bought my house in FL, it was then a matter of cleaning out the FL storage lockers as well as the rental house in which I had stayed. For that, I simply used local U-Hall vans, and I had found some of those "Hire a helper" services to help me move and set up stuff in my new house. I did have to do one "long distance" trip from my house to FL (via DC) as I was cleaning up the storage lockers I had rented in NJ.as well as dealing with the additional stuff from my Godmother's condo in DC which was undergoing the same same process. So I had to find another storage locker (much closer to my new house - within 1 mile) that the "Estate" was paying for to store her stuff. When the Estate was liquidated and the residual funds paid to the final beneficiaries, I kept that storage locker for a little while (was still dealing with 1700 sq ft. of stuff in an 1100 sq. ft. house). But I also had to give that additional locker up as it was getting expensive. Anyway, that's what I did. If I had to move again, I might do a few things differently. I may have done PODS exclusively, but it depends on how quickly I can occupy the new premises, as well as how far I have to move. I think the moving company thing was way too expensive. But YMMV. One caution I will say (and why it might be better to hire a moving co). You have to make sure that everything is very carefully packed. Furniture that was assembled together "Ikea" style needs to be broken down into its pieces for moving. If you attempt to move it assembled, you run the risk of it being damaged with all the shaking and bumps and vibrations. At least the movers I selected knew that, and did what they could to minimize damage. Still there was some. Floor lamps should not rest on the floor, as the weight could cause them to be damaged. Just be carefull

Long term medical (terminal) issues, I could understand. I've seen people suffer through those things. It's not pretty. But, if other family members are involved, I think it's something that should, at least, be discussed with them, although the final decision rests with the person who is terminally ill. I would concur with that article. People who, given other circumstances, would not want to take their life, but don't see any way out of their troubles. There has to be a way.

I'd be very cautious of both Texas and Florida. Sadly, Florida is not as 2A friendly as it used to be. Too many anti's moving down here from the northeast who want things "the way we had it up there," and too many politicians trying to cater to them. This, plus the influx of the refugees from the Hurricanes in Puerto Rico and close by islands. If they're allowed to vote, we could be in serious trouble. We are all very concerned that Florida could turn "purple" if it hasn't already. But we will fight for it. We'll know better after the primaries in August. As for Texas, Austin is already "blue." Dallas and Houston are at risk Tuscon in Az is already blue, as well as places like Sedona.. Maybe Tenn. will be OK for a while, but it can still have some bad weather there. To be honest, I don't think there will be anywhere that will be totally "safe." I think you have to pick an area and then fight for it if there's any chance that you can stop the anti wave. Sadly, I think NJ is too far gone. But the other places are worth fighting for, including Fl.