Scorpio64

It is undeniable that Remington has an outstanding legacy, but that's just what it is, a legacy. Mossberg is smashing it with the Shockwave, which Remington quickly copied once they saw it was a hot item, all of Remington's sales of the Tac was driven by brand loyalty.and riding the coattails of Mossberg's innovation. Remington struggled for years to get the R51 out. When they took over Marlin, quality went down the shitter. I read so many complaints about the poor quality of the so called "Remlins"., especially complaints about 336's. Appalling fit and finish, inconsistent accuracy, some are lemons and others tack drivers. It's a crap shoot. The 700 series is nice but not the only game in town. A tricked out 700 could easily cost $3000.00. But why buy a sweet rifle like that when you can get something just as sweet from Ruger for a 1/3rd the cost. Ruger is smashing the long range precision rifle market. A very traditional company like Remington, but far more innovative and changing with the times. I'm still a huge fan of the 870. Mine was built in the early 90's and it's just as good today as the day I unboxed it. I'd still recommend an 870 but if they really needed 1990's Rem quality, I'd tell them to look at Benelli. Remington's legacy is not enough alone to keep that company alive. They need to make some major improvements to QC and stop being cheap bastards.Get back into the business of making guns instead of sacrificing quality just to shave a few dollars. I hope Remington can pull through this. Sadly, I'm not optimistic that they can. It would kill me to see the brand sold or licensed to a Chinese company.

Planning their retirement. Remington is no longer a true US Corp. BO is gone and so are the profits.

Gettysburg is an absolute must see place. You read about it, you see pictures of it but you cannot truly appreciate it unless you have been there. It is a place frozen in time.

Why do I get the feeling you would not even have to be home for a burglar to get shot with a scatter gun at your crib. I invision lots of eye screws, clamps and paracord by your front door.

35 yards.

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last two lanes on the right are for 50 cal and other magnum rifles.

Well, maybe they will be more focused if their life is on the line, that or darwin takes over.

Unless you live in a mansion, the average home defense encounter wont be more than 5 yards.

Right you are. Getting back on track, I think you were just about to say that you are coming to the next shootout.

@remixer EJECT EJECT EJECT!!!

Steve.... Why are so many women trying to run you over in parking lots? What did you do?

Blowing shit up is cool. When I take women to the range, yanno what they like? Not that I taught them to shoot a rifle, not that their groups are an inch smaller at the end of the day. What they like is seeing a 75gr hollow point put into a gallon container of water at 100 yards. Every time they see it they say, "wow, that's cool". Chicks dig blowing shit up to. Oh, and another thing, when they shooting their own ammo, they seem to take forever to pull the trigger, but when they are shooting mine, it's like they are Jerry Mikulek.

What's your point?

Unfortunately, remakes are capitalizing on the popularity of past shows and are using them as an opportunity for liberal (socialist) social engineering. The updated plots usually have little to do with the original show.

Sorry man, I'll just have to go ahead and disagree with you there. Any time someone snuffs their own candle, it's tragic. It may be selfish and they may be weak, but it's still tragic regardless of where it happens.

Dude, this is completely untrue. Fake news!!!

Snap caps, practice, become awesome.

Pretty sure they were breaking before the flash birds were loaded. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I wonder if the composition of the white flyers they sell at wallmart are the same as the ones I get at my trap club. The clays I get at Salomon's are the same as the ones they use in ATA meets, Also, I'm wondering if they broke from being dropped from the hopper onto the thrower arm, or if they were already cracked when they were loaded into the hopper.

But, you didn't bring us any stickers this time.

I know we good, but plausible deniability is more gooder.

Cold pitch clays are harder to break in cold weather. Even if you hit the target, it may just get punched with some holes. I saw several targets today that got bumped without breaking Here's something interesting I just learned. Bio targets slough off orange dust when they are cold. So it may not have been my flash clays. I dunno, 50/50 at worst..

I'm not exactly a fan of lasers but I think a laser would be very useful on the shockwave. I find that I shoot low and to the left with mine and a laser would be helpful in lining up a good shot. fwiw, the shockwave does not strike me as a red dot kinda gun.