Scorpio64

As you probably know, there are transaction fees associated with CCs. That cuts into the retailer's bottom line and makes profitability difficult when working off thin margins in viciously competitive markets. I happen to dislike when stores have a CC surcharge. I much prefer the cash discount model. As a practical matter, it is the same, but instead of penalizing someone for using a CC, you are rewarding them for paying in cash. It's all about the optics.

Get you some of them dog training collars for the kids and leave the shotgun out, unloaded of course. every time they even look at it, zap em. In fact, if even one goes for the gun, zap 'em all. You don't want to seem like you are playing favorites. How one stores their gun(s) is a deeply personal and hotly contested matter. On one hand, barriers (cases, unloaded, locks) can burn precious time when glass is breaking at 0300. On the other hand, children are curious, and the more you hide something, the more they want to see and mess with it. There are various ways to secure a HD firearm. You will hear a lot of elbows, they are like opinions, everyone's got 'em. Take it all in and decide for yourself what you are most comfortable with. I'd start with looking at long gun safes with biometric entry.

Good to know.

Next Wed should be nice. Mid 50's.

So GFH and Otto's are not related in any way. No common interests, ownership or business dealings. I ask this because I've been to ranges with gun stores inside where the two are operated separately but have common connections. Bottom line, is Otto's associated with GFH in any way shape or form?

That's too bad. I was thinking about visiting @gunforhire soon, and have recommended them. Won't be doing that anymore. I'll take their smarmy advice and go elsewhere.

Just trying to be a good njgf citizen. We gotta look out for each other because nobody else will.

Point taken. But let this be a lesson, always call the FFL and ask about fees.

22lr would perform better in a Vietnam era M-16 with a 1:12 than a modern 1:7bbl I wonder what 22lr chronos out of an AR barrel, how much velocity is being lost due to the .001 difference. Not strictly true. Some preppers have the kit in their BUG to go wabbit hunting. No point in wasting 223 ammo or making more noise than necessary if one is eating off the fat o' the land.

Crap. That would have been sweet if you could have stuck it back to him.

Did NICS fee go up? If not, I think charging more than the mandated $15 is not allowed. Dunno, haven't bought anything in a while. I know the $3 is trivial compared to the buggering he gave you , but you could make his life just a tiny bit difficult if you reported him.

3/4/21 Midway USA has 9mm, 380 ACP, 38sp and 357 Mag die sets in stock now. Lee deluxe carbide 4 die set. 3/5/21 All gone.

Mine is a 93 I think. Was made just prior to the penny pinching phase at Remmy. By today's standards, the stock is excellent, They hadn't gone to laminated ( fancy name for plywood) stocks, back then they were cutting costs by using unnamed "hardwood", probably birch based on the fine grain. Hunted on some cold cold days with it and never had a problem. My 870 is tame compared to my first shotty, an old Stevens 311A SxS. A lot of recoil issues have to do with stock geometry. When I dolled up the 870 with Magpul furniture, it definitely changed the felt recoil.

I would take any pre 2000 870 over a Mossberg, but after that, Mossberg all the way.

There are a few women at my trap club, one of em is about four foot twelve and a half inches and cant weigh more than a buck five. Cute as a button too, but a little weird. She shoots barefoot most of the time. She can out shoot us all.

I will make a note of that, to never defend home from a bench rest, prone or kneeling. btw, shotgun recoil is not the same as rifle recoil, which I am sure you are aware of. We need to account for recoil velocity. Shotgun powder burns at a much slower rate, giving more of a push, whereas a rifle is more like a punch. I know guys, hefty guys, that shoot 300 win mag, and they take three shots max to sight in. NOBODY is plowing through 200 rounds of 300 WM in a sitting.

300 win mag recoil is brutal. 12 ga reduced recoil, naaaaaah. 20ga, even less. I see women burn through a 250 round case shooting trap all day long. It can't be THAT brutal.

And a shotgun or pistol wont? btw, you don't "need" a muzzle device to be NJ compliant. There is always a crowned barrel or threaded barrel with a thread protector on it. Anything is easy to mess up under stress. That's why we train, so we aren't thinking under stress, we are doing. Unless one's home is being invaded by a small army, three rounds is the average number of shots fired. Shotguns are also a force multiplier. eight or nine pellets in one trigger pull. It won't be pretty. As far as capacity, 10rd ar mags offer little over a shotty. Ar mag= 10 projectiles. Shotty with eight low recoil 8 pellet in the tube = 64 projectiles. You'd have to carry seven AR mags to equal that.

You only live once, seems more appropriate here.

Keep your cleaning kit handy.

@High Exposure Yanno, they make some really REALLY convincing fish tank screen savers man. Bubbler sounds and everything.

I was under the impression you could do all this on-line.

You should try and convince your boy to get a bird. They live forever and he can teach it bad words.

That sucks. They'vebeen around forever.