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I hope I've added this thread within the correct forum. If not, please feel free to move. If anyone is interested, there is a poll being conducted on the MSNBC website (the news cable outlet's online site). The poll asks his question: "Do you think people should be allowed to carry guns in public?" And the three possible answers are: "Yes! The Second Amendment guarantees it." "No, it's too dangerous." "Only for self defense." As of this writing, the "Yes! The Second Amendment guarantees it" answer is at 92%. You can only see the current answer if you take the poll, in which it then flips to the answers. If you are interested, the poll is located here: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-do-you-think-people-should-be-allowed-carry-guns-public

Excellent answers, every one. Come to think of it, the Trident does have a built-in line cutter that could be used on seat belts, although the blade would probably be better for that. Thanks for responding.

Wow, thanks for the great response. Unless I understand this incorrectly, this all this sounds like better news than I thought. You sound like you know your stuff. In your opinion, what is your prediction as to the outcome?

I've heard of examples where the officer used the opportunity to conficate the knife, claiming there was no valid need to have it. I grew up in NJ and always had heard that the rule of thumb for legality was to place the blade flat across the palm of your hand, left to right. If it fit within your palm, then it was legal. Was that ever true? If so, when did it change? My Trident would be okay with that rule but I'm thinking I would have trouble nowadays.

"Hmmmmmm..... that's quite the tactical looking box cutter you got there, son...." Maybe I'll just bring along a cheap, and confiscatable, dollar store pocket knife. Man, NJ laws make you have to think too much. Thanks for the reply.

Don't have or ever fired the '30 but I own a USP Elite and I own and carry a P2000sk. You will never go wrong with a H&K. Never failed to fire or jam in any way. Will last more than a lifetime. Great choice.

Regarding rimfires: it depends on the firearm. Dry firing something like a Ruger 10/22 is okay, and a training staple. I would never dryfire with my S&W Model 41. Check the manuals that came with your firearm.

The last two firearms I bought in 'Jersey (back in '96 and '86) took about that long. Seems to be a 'Jersey thing.

I live in Vermont, where I have freedom to own and carry a lot more things than NJ residents do, but since I grew up in NJ I travel there routinely to visit friends and family. I own a SOG Trident that I want to take along, However, the NJ knife carry laws state that you need to demonstrate a specific need in order to carry a knife...any knife as I understand it, despite size and shape. I'm going out on a limb here to say that personal defense is not a valid need down there, as far as knife carry goes, right? What constitutes a 'need' down there? What do you folks normally say at a typical traffic stop? I don't intend to break any laws.

I believe this affects San Diego only at this time, although I'm no lawyer. And, it's still subject to appeals. Hey, but a chink in the armor is a chink in the armor...we'll take it for now. Hello everyone...first time posting here. In the spirit of transparency, let me offer that I don't currently live in New Jersey; I live up in Vermont where I enjoy the opposite firearm legislative environment than you all do. I grew up in New Jersey, having left in '98 and still think of it as my home state, hence me cruising this NJ based forum. I'm very active in the shooting culture up here, including being a rifle marksmanship instructor for a large national organization. Let's just say I'm very pro-2nd Amendment. Heck...I'm very pro Constitution. I never had a political bone in my body until the whole hot and heavy gun control movement showed its ugly head last year. My state's politicians have since gotten a steady dose of (courteous) communication from me. What I wanted to offer is that my environonment, although very open to gun ownership, is also existing amidst a very Liberal political climate. Most of the top-level politicians are from elsewhere (a blue elsewhere) and have been put in place by a very Liberal public. We're the home to Bernie Sanders, an unabashed Socialist running on an Independent ticket. Yet, although we had been subject to many attempts at gun control bills, especially at the beginning of last year, all the bills introduced were, up to this point, shot down. Why? How the heck did that happen even within a deeply entrenched Liberal government? I think the difference is that gun ownership is still very much part of the Vermont culture. It is a hunting-based culture from way back where most folks grew up with easy access to firearms. People are very comfortable with guns around. They respect these items...they just don't fear them. It's much like power tool ownership: respect without fear. Any politician who tries to poke the dark side of the typical gun owner up here stands to get a backlash, and for the most part, have backed down up to now (we stay vigilant). However, there have been many attempts early last year, as I've mentioned, by politicians who thought the time had come...the window of opportunity had opened up...to push their anti-gun agenda. For the most part, up to now, they backed down and ran back under the couch with their tails between their legs. I, as well as most of my friends up here, can't wait for the next election day. We now have a list of names of politicians who have revealed what they're about. Okay, so what I'm trying to say, is that the main thing that has made the difference between up here and NJ is the public's inner perception of guns, in general. My trips back to visit my family in NJ reveals a general attitude to firearms that are very negative. For the most part, the folks down by you are afraid of those dumb, inanimate objects. Even my Conservative-leaning group of relatives fall short of loosening up the laws in that draconian state. Heck, despite my (hopefully) rational explanations of guns not being the problem, rather that the decision/motivation of the people abusing them is, for whatever warped reason, blah-blah-blah, is completely lost on my friends and family down by you, as I suspect, the rest of the general population. Not everyone, obviously, as all of you prove, but the general population of a typical blue state like NJ. Change in laws are great. I completely applaud what is happening. I wish nothing more than to have you all enjoy the freedom to carry that I do. At this point, my biggest problem with carry is choosing the most comfortable IWB holster/gun combination and the shortage of ammo. Aside from schools, federal buildings, post office buildings and a few other things, concealed carry is completely legal by anyone over 18...even by visitors to our state, with a clean record of course. I don't even have to think about whether I have a permit in my wallet when I leave the house; there isn't one. All my semi-auto rifles are non-neutered...free of any evil feature regulations. Suppressors are the only banned item and rumblings have begun to change even that. Loaded rifles in cars are a no-no but that is really a hunting regulation thing...not a gun control thing. I also find it amusing that Texas keeps getting the reputation as the gun-toting state. Vermont is completely Constitutional carry. Even Bloomberg hasn't pointed at Vermont as any kind of anti-gun example. You know why? Because it works up here! Even with all the guns around...even without the draconian grapple-hold regulations that you face...this is still one of the top two safest states in the country. That little fact seems to conveniently escape the antis. Bottom line: even with the little chink in the San Diego law thing, the biggest challenge in NJ is a public relations one; the public's general view to gun ownership. Change that and you'll stand a better chance at changing the political structure, which works in your favor. Of course, I never said it was easy, but that's the course to take. I wish everyone the freedom you deserve. My selfish wish to this is that it eventually...very eventually...opens the way for some kind of reciprocal that allows me to carry down there (through another out of state permit, since Vermont doesn't do recipricals directly except with other Constitutional Carry states).