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Like I said, I didn't ask for the price. But at $70, I am glad I didn't pick up the M&P22

Can you imagine the look on their faces if a cop told them that, and then proceeded to handcuff people? Priceless!

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I'm 20 minutes Mays Landing and 25 minutes from Manahawkin. Was thinking of getting an M&P22, so I called around to see if ammo was available before I bought it. Spoke to the counter guys in both places about 3 weeks ago. Both said the same exact thing. They get a ridiculously small amount every 2 to 3 weeks and it is gone before the day is over. They never know when or how much is coming in. I asked both guys if they expected things to change, and both said it has actually been longer and longer between shipments of .22, as time has passed. Not sure where you are but, I was in Belleplain Supply Co. today (Woodbine), and noticed that they had a bunch of it on the shelves. Didn't look at prices since I decided against the .22, but was surprised they had so much. Also, Shooters in Little Egg has it. Again, not sure on the price, but there is a 1 brick per customer, per week, rule so that people have a chance to shoot and hoarders don't make a run on the place.

Hilarious and sad at the same time.

Sorry, I don't have any info on turnaround time. I just wanted to ask, so they are not sending out letters to your references? Meaning, they are giving you the forms for the references to fill out and turn in together with your forms?

Hearing stuff like this makes me sick. I really hope you are kidding about ink for the printer, but thinking about it you are probably dead serious. I guess I should be used to hearing stuff like this, but I still cant get over how badly we are treated as a group.

God forbid we have a Fort Hood incident here, well be saying that the new 1 round limit bill will be so that the 2 round limit will be more palatable.

If we gave up or guns for just 48 hours the police would be the ones blowing the rape whistles the hardest. Can you imagine what kind of criminal amusement park NJ would become? How would they respond to 70,000 burglaries in progress?(and that's just in Newark) With all the budget cuts, and layoffs, you would think the cops would appreciate us a little more as just one more reason they don't have to respond to triple the calls for help. Instead FPIDs take 6 months to forever to get.

The wife and I were talking about staying or going tonight. We love the area we live in, and the people in our neighborhood. But, when you start factoring the costs, laws, lack of freedom, and general legislative thievery, it really makes you think of jumping ship. For us its tough, we own a business and a home. Plus, were not sure of where we would go. I guess once you get fed up enough you just take the plunge, pick a place, and go all in.

+1 on this. They do not care unless you pose a danger to anyone. For instance, if you went to a Psy because you had a close relative die and wanted to discuss your feelings on how you were upset at the loss, this would be no big deal. If you went there and said you heard voices telling you to kill, big red flag.

To the OP, you are 100% fine. No need to worry.

Thanks, I'll head over there right now.

Good, then will you call the AG or should I just turn myself in?

Should I just report to prison now, or would you like to present the attorney general with your expert testimony that the mags from smith and Wesson that came with the M&P can be altered and send a couple thousand of us to prison at once?

Ok then. I guess my factory mags that came with my M&P 40 are no good. Guess I will just go throw the mags and gun in the river since you can get 16 in it.

I have 15 round factory mags. And for the reasons you specified above, I am not going to modify to 10 if and when the laws change here. I am just going to buy factory 10 round mags. Simple, easy, no jail time. Cost is a different matter.

Yay, can't wait for more of this next year!

Thanks again. I appreciate the replies.

Once again guys, this topic is proof that no one can agree on a definitive answer for this issue. If this went to a jury, it could go either way, and that's not good enough for me to go to jail over. Luckily, all of my mags are in compliance with the current laws. I guess if things change, I will go across the river to PA and give my mags away, then go buy new ones of legal capacity. It stinks, but what else am I going to do?

Anytime!

But........I also agree that given an unlimited budget, unlimited supplies, and a lot of talent, SOMEONE would be able to do it. Since we can not be sure what a jury would think, I'm not sure if it would fly. Only if they agree that the modification can not be reversed "WITHIN REASON", would it pass. What one considers reasonable is up for debate, and therefore does not put me in a position to be 100% positive this would be legal.

Without getting into specifics (because I don't know if the entire procedure would work, and I don't want anyone getting hurt trying it until I know it would be safe.). The reason I would feel my idea would be permanent, is that part of the process would involve cutting away the side wall of handgun magazines (Say an M&P40), where at least 2 square inches of material would be lost. The entire process to modify it for less rounds would cost me $2, if that. The only way that the mag could ever be returned to its original state would involve cutting out a piece of metal the exact shape and thickness of the piece you originaly cut away, then welding it back onto the mag, grinding it smooth, and painting it to match. By my calculations the time and cost to return the mag back to its original condition would be ridiculous, and most likely would destroy the mag in the process. I can't imagine welding a "patch" of metal onto something as thin as a mag would be easy. Then having to grind it smooth, inside and out! I don't think the mag would survive the process, or that the time and money spent would be worth it. Maybe in some of the larger thicker riffle mags, but not something thin like a M&P mag.

Instead of our politicians upping prison terms for killers and rapists, they want to penalize me for gun crimes I am completely against. I've never hurt anyone in my life, why should I pay for Adam Lanza. I will be honest, forums like this one have opened my eyes to what is really going on in this state. While I can not say I have been pro firearms my entire life, I can say that I have been pro freedom, and pro citizens rights. The backhanded B.S. going on is sickening.

Thank you to all.