Fallen Knight

So in theory, one could just keep em as is...since no one has any record? I would never do such a thing, having done everything legally i.e. getting the FID card and handgun permit, but criminals who refuse to comply could one up us law abiding citizens when it comes to firepower...

Hi All, Been reading about this measure that's now on Gov CC's desk to sign or veto. Just wondering, to those who have more knowledge in the matter, will we need to turn in all of our 15 round magazines or get them altered? Can the state police just enter our house and arrest us if we don't turn them in or get them altered? Thanks in advance... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you all for the advice! I'm hoping to take basics class some time this week at RTSP. I'm not a very large guy, being around 5'7 and just over 130lbs, that plus being new to shooting, makes me tend to avoid recoil, for the time being. That's why I wanted to gauge the difference between the 9mm and .40cal recoil, because as a smaller guy with undeveloped skills(for now), I wanted to start off with the most powerful caliber that I can handle. Any gun that is .40 cal that is comparable to the 96a1 in handling, weight, recoil, etc? RTSP doesn't have the 96a1 available for rental, unfortunately.

Thank you, certainly will. I'm going to try to drop by RTSP sometime this week. And should've been more clear, FID card is what I meant!

Thank you all very much for the abundance of info, in particular PK90, the breakdown you've provided is especially enlightening. I've also been looking at BudsGunShop, some good deals on there as well, but so far, I'm leaning more towards a local Gun Shop, simply for support, and (hopefully)better customer service.

Thank you for the all info! It's very helpful. My first thought is to shop locally, however I did see some items that were much less expensive online.

Hi All, They seem to have good prices. But is it worth buying from here? Do we still get hit with NJ state tax? I know we still got the NICS fee. And how does buying from here work? They ship it to a FFL dealer, and you just go in and pick it up? Thank you in advance for your time!

Yeah, this will be my first gun, ever. I don't have too much cash to spend right now, definitely want to keep less than 1,000.00 since I've got school related expenses coming up. I don't know when I'll be able to buy another gun, but I hope my next one will be an AR, since I'm relocating to PA for school, so I won't have NJ laws holding me back.

The PX4 Storm, that's a .45cal right? If so, I'd definitely want to give that a shot(pun intended!) at the range, since .45cal in a polymer gun would have quite a bit of recoil I would imagine. The Glock17 had too much recoil for my liking, keeping in mind it was only my first time shooting anything aside from a BB gun...ANyone have experience with PX4 Storm and it's recoil and reliability/ease of maintenance?

That is good to know! +P rounds, due to the increased pressure, will have result in greater recoil, and wearing out of the gun then, no?

I was under the impression +P rounds are illegal in NJ...?

I plan to dissect it, need to learn from the ground up. Btw, is there any difference between the M9A1 and the 92A1? I know is M is the military one, and 92 is civilian, but in terms of handling and round capacity is there any difference?

Hey everyone, So I did some reading on this, first off, I get that there isn't any "goldilocks" caliber, but how greatt is the difference between the 9mm and .40 in terms of ease of acquiring, price, and stopping power? Secondly, would this Beretta 96A1 also have significantly more recoil than the M9(to those who've shot both)? I shot the G17 and didn't like the snappiness that it had, even though it is 9mm. And lastly, would the 96A1 be as durable and reliable as the M9? I've read that apparently .40 cal guns tend to "wear" out faster...I won't presume to have any knowledge nor expertise in this area. I know the .40cal seems to be a polarizing topic...But I trust we can keep it civil and gain something from the discussion! Thanks in advance for your thoughts and ideas!

Thank you, knock on wood, no physical limitation. You're right, it was only my first time shooting, ever, so I was very sensitive to recoil. Also kept flinching the first few times when the gun would shoot, because of the noise, even with the ear mufflers. lol. Need to work on that, unfortunately only had 2 hours.

Really appreciate the advice from everyone. So I went to the range today, I did not have too much time, but I did get to try the 92fs and the G17...I have to say, as it's been said before, I would go with the Beretta. The Glock17 had too much recoil for my liking, plus I didn't like the weight(too little) and the grip was uncomfortable. So I'm thinking about picking up an M9A1 in the coming days....HOWEVER, someone at the range has also suggest trying the Sig 1911...Any thoughts on that(in terms of reliability, durability, and ease of cleaning/disassembling-reassembling)? I wanted to try it, but I didn't have time today. Any and all opinions welcomed(and encouraged)! Thank you in advance!

Thank you, I'll look into that as well. How is the durability on the CZ75? I haven't heard of this company...which doesn't mean much, but even before, I knew of Smith&Wesson, Glock, and Beretta! Btw, what is a good place to buy any of these guns(Glock17, Beretta M9, or CZ-75) from? I'm guessing Gun for Hire is gonna be overpriced? Thank you for the input!

Thank you all, look forward to getting to know everyone in the near future!! And Mag1, haven't decided yet...looking into Glock 17 or Beretta M9...gotta try them out at a friendly range soon, can't wait!

^^Thank you for that! That place looks really good. I think I'm gonna try to check it out tomorrow.

Oh wow, I did not think many people in Livingston had guns...that's good to know! I'm over on Edgemere Rd. by the Temple Emmanuel!

Wow! Thanks guys, that was quick, much appreciated! I'm located in Livingston, NJ. It's by the West Orange and Short Hills, off of 280, if you aren't sure. I'm trying to find a good reliable place where I could try shooting, and handling both of these guns, if not others, so to make a better decision.

Hi All, I'm new to the world of guns, and I don't know much. I've done some reading here and there, but aside from that, nada. In any case, I want to know, which is more accurate and reliable, in terms of lower maintenance, and less chances of jams etc. I know the Glock does not have a safety, and that it is largely plastic, whilst the M9 is a more metal. I know pricing is also roughly the same. I've also looked into the sig P220...This is a vast and overwhelming world, and I don't want to screw up and buy a gun that's flimsy or unreliable. I didn't like the Rugers too much...so not interested in those. Oh, I forgot to mention, I want to get this for home defense AND shooting range. Thank you for your time!

Hi All, Just got my license today. Only took about 5.5 weeks! Pretty pumped to be getting into the world of firearms!