Bushmaster1313

The Police Department gets 60 days and the Court gets 30 days. So if I was an overworked and moderately paid Judge trying to do the right thing and the applicant pestering me was within 90 days of the application being complete I would ask myself: “This job is tough enough as is, why is this person giving me a hard time.”

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Even on a good day Judges and their staff are typically under an enormous overload of work. Often, a polite call to the Judge’s Chambers can work wonders. As to how you can actually force a Judge to order another Judge to follow the Directive, that could take years. You might need to file a Mandamus action with the Court of Appeals. And if that gets denied you would need to go to the New Jersey Supreme Court. Good luck with that.

You left out Notary Fee

Police departments have 60 days. if you hear nothing from the Police Department after 60 days you will need to find a way to get your default approved application to the County Superior Court. I do not know how to do that. That is where you need some expert legal advice. Assuming an approved application gets to the County Superior Court, the Judge has 30 days to approve or hold a hearing. If the 30 day deadline passes without contact from the Court, one option is to politely call the chambers of the judge responsible for permits, explain your situation, and ask what to do. If you want to try to force the judge’s hand I would recommend getting legal advice, and the advice might be to wait a bit longer while the lawyer contacts the Judge’s chambers.

I think it means it is deemed approved by the police chief. I think you still need a judge to approve and get an issued permit card

Still just crickets out of Middlesex

I read that in some states from the outside you can shoot someone breaking into your house and in Texas you can shoot a burglar breaking into your neighbor’s house. ^^^ I do not know if the above is true.

You are absolutely correct that applications should be recorded when received. in other situations, Important papers are filed electronically as PDFs and the court’s docketing system makes an automatic record of what was filed and when. The Directive mandates that a list of carry permit applications, including. The date received by the court, must be kept.

Worked for me and then my money order was cashed by Middlesex a week later. Like it or not, Judges' chambers are very busy places and very thinly staffed. It would be highly unusual if the deluge of post Bruen carry permit applications did not cause sizeable delays. And to say it is the Judges' own fault is not fair. Until Bruen Judges were bound by their Oath of Office to follow New Jersey Supreme Court precedent--and they did.

First time I emailed the records clerk after my PD sent my application to Middlesex she could not find it on her list of received applications. Within 6 hours she emailed me to say she had it. If your application is on the bottom of a stack and not yet entered onto the list the clerk would have no way of knowing the application had been received by the court. And the court likely has stacks, plural, of received applications not yet entered into the system. My guess is that the application will show up at Middlesex a week or two after Labor Day. What you could do is ask the PD when they sent your application and then politely email the clerk a week after Labor Day and tell her when and which PD sent over your application and ask if you could please confirm receipt. i would have the email read something like this: My local police department tells me that they sent over my approved carry permit application on about August __ . If possible, could you please confirm that it has been received. Name Address email phone

Middlesex County also cashed my money order as of September 1

The Directive is here The NJ Supreme Court Decision adopting the directive is here Here is how the System works: 1) The Police Department has 60 days to approve or deny. 2) If the Police Department does not approve or deny after 60 days the application is deemed approved by the Police Department 3) An application denied by the Police Department can be appealed 4) An application that is approved by the Police Department is to be presented to the Superior Court Judge 5) After the Court receives the application the Prosecutor has 14 days to make a recommendation 6) With 30 days after the Court receives the application the Court must approve the application for issue or hold a hearing 7) Within 14 days after the hearing the Court must make a decision

As ordered by the Supreme Court of New Jersey the deadline at the Superior Court on an application approved by the Police Chief is 30 days to approve or have a hearing. After the hearing the judge has 14 days to decide.

The seat of Middlesex is in New Brunswick. It includes: Avenel Carteret Colonia Cranbury Dayton Dunellen East Brunswick Edison Fords Helmetta Highland Park Iselin Keasbey Kendall Park Metuchen Middlesex Milltown Monmouth Junction Monroe Township New Brunswick North Brunswick Old Bridge Parlin Perth Amboy Piscataway Plainsboro Port Reading Sayreville Sewaren South Amboy South Plainfield South River Spotswood Woodbridge

The permit judge for Middlesex county was indeed on vacation, till August 22, and is now in the middle of a trial.

Middlesex is the third largest county with almost 900,000 residents, but so far it is a black hole. Applications approved by multiple Police Departments have gone in and nothing has come out.

There are looming Equal Protection and Due Process violations if someone gets a more restrictive permit merely because of the Zip Code where they live.

The Association of New Jersey Carjack Professionals has on its website that item 11 violates the Constitution, and if one of their members carjacks an automobile with a gun on their carry permit the carjacker need not stow their gun in the trunk while making their getaway.

Still nothing from Middlesex ???

Judge was supposed to come back August 22 i expect there will be a big stack of police dept approved applications

I said I fell off a turnip truck

Oh No. Now you will never get approved Maybe even get hauled in for a felony rap

Any news from Middlesex Superior Court. Some reported that the responsible Judge was returning from vacation August 22 so things are likely backed up.

June 23, 2022 2A Freedom Day The day New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Hawaii, California and Massachusetts froze over.