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One who acts. In this case the person defending his home. This did not imply a staged event.

vladtepes, This is an excellent scenario, some commotion outside that felt suspicious, it appears the actor even knew the assailant. The actor visually inspected the corridor, which exposed him to unnecessary risk (but the camera was too low to tell if the door had an eyehole). The actor clearly yelled that he had a gun, which the assailant completely ignored (or did not hear over the sound of him breaking through the door). This was a completely clean shoot; the actor did everything until the last moment that necessitated deadly force. The actor even exhibited remorse for an assailant that deserves none. I assume that such an encounter is atypical as the assailant was entering in high profile and ever escalating the situation. I can certainly agree that a bean bag would likely not stop the assailant. If I did have a bean as my first round, I would simply eject it using one quick pump; but I doubt I would use a bean in such a small dwelling. My concerns for lethal-only ammunition lie more in situations where a robber simply wants to grab a TV/Xbox, intoxicated friend, family, or stranger showing up unexpectedly, concern for buck going through drywall and entering a neighbor's dwelling, and much more. I remember a story I heard a while back where a drunken college student was returning from a party to his recent girlfriend's house, where a party had already ended. All of the lights were out, as everyone was asleep, furthermore the houses all looked the same late at night, not to mention the student's level of intoxication. He chose the house that appeared most similar to what he had remembered, found the door to be locked, and swung around into the backyard to get the porch open, get inside, and sleep. He couldn't get the porch open because it was locked, and a homeowner saw his silhouette and began banging on the porch door, insanely to scare him off. This was quite effective. This was not the right house. It was a neighbors. The student hopped a fence into the next yard, scared out of his drunken mind, only to find his girlfriend standing by the porch waiting for him, puzzled. He passes out in the correct house as police arrive and the (non)situation deescalates. Now, how many different ways could this have gone? Let's say the porch was unlocked, and the student made it inside. How long would it take them to realize it wasn't the right house in his state of mind? Would the owner fire on him immediately? Does he have good judgement on whether or not there is real danger? Would it have been justified? There isn't a conclusive answer to these questions, but I feel it in my gut that I would owe it to society to at least consider a form of non-lethal deterrent for such situations. In a situation where I know it's either him or me; there is no issue, and I will likely sleep just fine knowing I did the right (if not only) thing to defend myself. But I believe there is a lot more gray than black in home intruder cases, and considering non-lethal ammo to be worthless is irresponsible by my (as has been said) naive standards.

Barms, My intent was never to antagonize. It was to ask questions, which is exactly what I did and what I am doing. I came in here with full knowledge that this would be a heavily pro-gun forum. If I was anit-gun, I wouldn't be here. If the primary purpose in your mind for a gun is to end a life, that is not leak-proof concept. It's an opinion. I intend to lurk here for a while, but if I have a question I'm going to ask it. I never intended on going into ethics, but the stronger the arguments against me, the more I learn. No one has yet to say anything completely unintelligent. I've been enjoying the discourse to be honest.

Har har har, excuse me for preferring disabling someone over ending their life. I get the law is not on my side on this one.

I assure you that I am earnest in all of my questions and felt this was the most convenient way of getting them answered? Haven't you ever just had questions you wished people were around to answer?

Would love that

Russian university?

This was not admission of actually owning any guns. I don't have any, but am looking to purchase (legally). Sure, you're pronouncing my online handle properly.

I haven't read any of your names, only the responses. Why is the name so important?

mipafox?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475 Here is a real life reference of such an event. The shooter was killed on site, but still, tragic nonetheless.

Just getting my $3's worth, where else am I going to ask these questions?

Criminals could also yell this. Doesn't deter HD justification.

I am brand new to gun onwership in the state of NJ and want to understand what my rights are and how best to behave around law enforcement.

Hypothetical scenario. It's 2AM. You hear your door being bashed in. You grab your firearm, head to your stairwell and aim at the door. There are no lights inside, or outside. The shadow(s) break their way through, you see the clear silhouette of firearms in their hands. You open fire, killing 2. It turns out they had a case of mistaken identity and the warrant was for a completely different home. Is the law on your side?

I actually couldn't find the search. And still can't. I'm feeling technologically inferior right now.

Not sure how a) attempted murder can be done with a blank b) no projectile if its a blank. Is it so difficult to accept that killing someone is a big deal EVEN if it is to save your own life? You have to live with this forever, you will question yourself constantly if you could have done something different; it's called being human. I would not have a problem firing on someone who is firing on me, or someone who is charging me even though he clearly sees a weapon in my hands, or someone who is armed and on my property (warning him would not be wise), I get all these things. My only point was, if there is a safer alternative, I'd prefer to take it. Coking a shotgun will discourage ANY unarmed robber, and I highly doubt robbers call the police to let them know I cocked a shotgun and scared them after they broke into my home.

I am cautious with police in general. Slippery buggers.

What if he runs my name through their internal database? I am just looking at what if scenarios. Overall, do you recommend answering the question or remaining silent. What will statistically be better for you?

That's exactly what I needed. Thanks. Follow up question. Say he runs your name and your firearms ID comes up, what if he asks things along the lines of "do you own a gun?" "is it in the car right now?". Is this a time to make a legal stand and remain silent, or are there more cordial ways to go about this that won't piss off the officer and have him do all in his power to fuck you out of principle.

Dear Community, I want to ask a question to which I can find 0 information on elsewhere. If you are pulled over by police for any reason in the state of NJ and you have a legal firearm in the vehicle, do you: a) Disclose that you have a legal firearm in the vehicle? 1) Does that automatically give just-cause for the officer to search your vehicle? 2) Does that imply consent to inspect the legal firearm? b) Should you not mention the firearm at all (especially if it is not on the gun registry with the state, such as a shotgun)? 1) Is this something that can bite you? What is the law on being pulled over with a legal firearm in your vehicle? Thanks, D

This is a sad fact for me. How exactly can frighten be illegal though? I can't cock a shotgun to discourage a robber? Fire a blank for the sound with the next cartridge being buck?

My understanding is the biggest difference is the ARGO system in M4s.

The purpose of my potential Benelli M3 purchase is for HD, range, skeet, hunting (fowl, deer), all-purpose really. Which is why the convertible auto-pump attracted me so much. It would be great to also learn both types of guns on a single firearm rather than buying two separate ones. I have read countless reliability/longevity endorsements for Benelli, and with the Marines using this shotgun sealed the deal for me. I investigated my issue further and it looks like I would need to process a custom order with Benelli through an FFL to have the stock customized to standard from its pistol grip variant. I should be ok, thanks for your help (and bloodlust I guess, ha).

It is not always the purpose of a gun to take a life.