MauserCollector

That depends on the judge. If he issues an injunction against the whole law, then it is like the law doesn't exist. I believe he should, since preventing someone from buying 15 round magazines, and forcing them to buy 10 round magazines, could cause undue financial burden. Also small dealers that are currently stuck with their 15 round magazines have limited options to sell them. Converting them to 10 would cause them unneeded financial and time costs if the law is overturned. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I have always disagreed about shooting on a friends property is a not allowed place and isn't an exemption for transportation. The law states. f. Nothing in subsections b., c., and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent: (1) A member of any rifle or pistol club organized in accordance with the rules prescribed by the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, in going to or from a place of target practice, carrying firearms necessary for target practice, provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section; (2) A person carrying a firearm or knife in the woods or fields or upon the waters of this State for the purpose of hunting, target practice or fishing, provided that the firearm or knife is legal and appropriate for hunting or fishing purposes in this State and he has in his possession a valid hunting license, or, with respect to fresh water fishing, a valid fishing license; (3) A person transporting any firearm or knife while traveling: (a) Directly to or from any place for the purpose of hunting or fishing, provided the person has in his possession a valid hunting or fishing license; or (b) Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder; or There is (1) official target range exemption. (2) Any land if with a valid hunting or fishing license, (3) or other authorized place for purpose of practice, target, trap, or skeet shooting. There is the official target range or club exemption and then the any authorized place exemption. This would mean land you can legally shoot on aka your friends property with his permission. Crazy thing is you can only let your friend shoot your gun under exemptions 1 & 2. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Illegal to do so now if they are over 10 rounds. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Larger stores the manufacturer will take them back and give them credit. I do not feel for NJ FFL's as long as they have the state feeding them compliance work. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

For magazines over 10 rounds yes. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

People already do print them. AK parties were popular in CA. Piece of sheet metal, template, metal shears, and a welder and viola a AK receiver. All other parts can be mail ordered. 80% lowers for AR and Glock. Their laws if they stand will just cause more of a black market and truly untraceable firearms. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Very true. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Agreed. Kennedy I think is a done deal before the midterms. God can't possibly be watching over RBG, so her time to take her seat at the right hand Satan should be nearing soon. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

That is why I believe lawsuits should be filed personally against anyone who has infringed on anyone else's 2A Rights. The police departments that take 6 months to process subsequent handgun permits sue the department, the chief, and the firearms officer. For those who want to reply that can't be done NJ courts already ruled it's ok to go past 30 days you are wrong. NJ courts ruled FPID is ok to go past 30 days. They never ruled on subsequent pistol permits. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I was referring to firearms. Which is what the question was about. Yes Nappen did say that about magazines, but Nappen also says you can't transport a loaded magazine to the range. Stores can not sell over 10 round magazines based on what Steve posted, and I probably wouldn't gamble mail ordering over 10 round magazines, but I don't see in the law where it says used magazines can't be sold between 2 residents. Admittedly I haven't looked that close either. I have been more concerned with background check law and recognition of FFL03. Hopefully we have an injunction soon and magazine law is put on hold. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I completely disagree. If Hillary won I would feel different and likely be looking into moving to Czech Republic or Finland. Since Hillary lost SCOTUS will rule many laws Unconstitutional as they should be. Gun ownership will never go away in Free America without SCOTUS with SCOTUS Gun ownership will be safe in all of America. However those in semi free states like Florida need to not be complacent and not count on SCOTUS. In NJ we have no other choice. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk You nailed it. When Whitman was Governor GOP controlled everything. Yet we lost gun rights in NJ. Where was NRA and ANJRPC then? Where were the lawsuits at that time? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

You can still sell FTF till October 1st. After that with a FFL03 you can sell FTF C&R firearms (more than 50 years old) to another FFL03. Long guns they still need a FPID and handguns they still need a PTP. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

No there isn't and the warrant shouldn't hold up, but this is a hypothetical scenario where they start coming for our guns. So they have a "confidential informant" and supporting documentation and the right judge and warrant is issued. Bottomline is records should not be kept to keep law enforcement honest. They have used illegal wire taps by spoofing cell towers to get warrants so it isn't completely out of the realm of possibilities. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I don't buy firearms online, I only use credit cards online, there is manufacturer to register my firearms with for warranty. I have a friend who you will only find income tax returns for. Not online period, phone not in his name, zero credit cards, cash only FTF used firearms purchases, rents, utilities not even in his name. Then there are the people I know who may actually appear as dead. No income tax returns even. Granted most of them don't own firearms because they are unemployed and live at home still. Most don't even have a drivers license. If I know people like this in NJ how many live elsewhere? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

So you don't disclose to PRNJ. Which is the correct thing to do. Many People get on this forum and take the holier than though you must submit to the government attitude. I've always wondered do they practice what they preach? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

True about the Garand. That's why I chose my new Belgian Army Issued FN-49. I was just debating the other day about pre WWII bolt actions. I and a few others said the Enfield. It's faster and more accurate than any other except maybe the K31. Combined accuracy and speed I should say. I find the Finnish M/28-30 more accurate than the Enfield, but it lacks in speed. Black Tips in .308 are hard to find and expensive. Plus the extra power of the .30-06 could be a difference maker, but yes any .30 is better than .223. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

True but I don't have a G43 yet so I can't use that line. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

My antiquated Firearms saved Europe from speaking German. Give me a semi auto .30-06 with 8-10 rounds over a 30 round 5.56. I don't need as many rounds. If I am running black tips most body armor or barriers become useless. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkSomething like this will do the trick. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

NJ NICS you could find out more info than could Feds. This state is a police state. Say No to NJ NICS get a FFL03 lol. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I believe NJ keeps information. Yes the Feds have to delete information. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It's not according to federal law. It is just a number assigned to a FFL. Nothing more attached after 24hrs no names of purchasers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Your point was NICS data has names attached to it. No it does not. Also copying 4473 physically would be a lot harder. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thank you so I am right that NTN has no name attached to it. They are just Matching numbers. If they scan all 4473 or entire book they are violating federal law and it would be a backdoor to a registry. There would be a need for them to take down purchaser info and what they purchased not just copy everyone's info. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

NJ since they keep records they could just look for the large purchasers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Ok so agent goes through 4473 and checks off the numbers. Why would there need to be a name attached to the number to do this? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

OK. I will go slower. NICS creates a NTN this is a number to show there was an approval. You mark that number down I assume on 4473 or in book of both. This covers the dealer that they ran the NICS and got an approval. NICS gives ATF agent these list of numbers that dealers were given, but just numbers with no names attached. Agent shows up with list of numbers. As agent goes through 4473 or book or both and each time he sees a NTN he goes to his list and makes sure it is there. If there is an approval without a number or a number not on his list I assume that could be a problem unless the dealer can show that he waited 3 days and didn't hear back from NICS so he proceeded with sale. If dealer just made up a number that would be a big problem. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk