Ricky_Bobby

I have the exact one in the first pic. Sweet tacticool bag it came with. What an awesome rifle for the price. Came with one 10 round rotary mag. I've since added 2 of the BX-15 mags and another rotary mag. Also added: -Kidd auto bolt release (stock is kinda weird, this allows you to just rack it with a new mag like a semi auto pistol) -Kidd extended charging handle and guide rod -Kidd mag release lever and stainless magazine plunger -Kidd bolt buffer -Hogue black over molded takedown stock -picatinny rail with see through (so you can use iron sights without scope) It's a sweet shooter and an awesome rifle for the price even with the mods I added. It's actually my wife's favorite to shoot and I have a blast with it. Super reliable too and feeds well with the factory Ruger mags.

Don't want a .40. 9mm and .45 is good for me personally. I also have a couple revolvers so not looking to add more handgun calibers. Would rather buy in the ones I have and buy more ammo in bulk personally. However, I will most likely go with it. I'm going to paraphrase something I wrote on another forum after I test drove in the showroom of Efingers (don't laugh, I pass them all the time since I live 10 mins away, prob would buy from them if they matched prices with other local LGS but they are always 10% higher) yesterday the VP9 and PPQ M2 - here are my notes from another forum. "VP9 is great, out of the box with the medium straps it felt good in the hand - I have small hands so for a better grip I'd prob switch out the side panels and backstraps for the small. Smooth trigger, felt very similar to my Glock. Reset was crisp. I like the factory steel luminescent sights. The only thing I'm not huge on is the paddle mag release. If I had bigger hands it would be less of an issue, a slight rotation on grip to drop with my thumb, but it's not feasible with my hand size. I need to use my index or middle finger of my trigger hand to drop it smoothly without rotating grip to much. Solid weight in the hand, definitely a nice pistol. PPQ = WOW. WHAT A TRIGGER. feels nothing like my Glock but both are great in their own ways. Glock's trigger is smooth, predictable, and stays constant throughout their lineup. The PPQ is totally different but I love it. Light with just enough takeup and so crisp. Wow. Ergonomics for my small hands - out of the box with the medium backstrap my hands feel right at home on the grip - I don't even know if I'd switch the small backstrap. The mag release button is easily reached without shifting my grip at all! Something I couldn't say for my Glock out of the box (I put a Vickers Tactical extended mag release on it which rounds it out and puts the hump closer towards the back of the grip just enough to be easy to press) Ambi slide release which is a plus. Lighter than the VP9 with an empty mag and a touch shorter in height and length of the VP9 as well. I think I've made up my mind. Glock 19 next year with my discount (I am proud to carry my G26 out of state and when I move, in the meantime, it's perfect for that) - but I think I will be getting a PPQ with my next permit and if the .45 is any indication of the 9mm, I'll be getting one of those as well to join my 1911 at some point. What an amazing pistol for the price ($590 from Steve for 9mm) Well worth spending the extra $50 that I would pay for a full price G19 IMO. Now I know why Hickok45 has such a conundrum with it even though he (and I) is a Glock guy."

I need a 19 now to be big brother to my 26 lol

Omg that is a smoking price and I do like the luminescent sights on the standard VP9 personally - the $100-150 price hike for night sights and extra mag isn't worth it and puts it way out of my budget. I agree its probably between PPQ and VP9 - ahhhhh decisions especially because that PSA price expires at Noon today! Thanks so much guys as I forgot about the VP9 - will let you all know what I end up with I did consider a 9mm 1911 but I'm a southpaw so I appreciate the ambi-mag releases on the striker fired pistols.

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I was DYING at the bold and in parenthesis LMAO - I will definitely check it out and thanks to Krdshrk for the referral to PSA, good price! I agree - the PPQ's are wicked sexy as well. Probably makes more sense to save my GSSF coupon for next year for the Glock 19 - I could pick up a G43 now though and be well under the budget (and maybe the wife would want to go shooting Glocks with me) - however, kind of redundant since its a less capacity, thinner, lighter G26 that I already have. I will have to hold the PPQ and the VP9 in hand in store - I will admit that my hands are less than average sized (I'm a Medium in motorcycle gloves), and on my G26 I can just reach the mag release - If I got the PPQ I'd really like the M2 version with the traditional mag release, both PPQ and VP9 have backstraps and side panels for grip so that should be nice and I'll have to see if I can configure it small enough to be comfy in the hand. My 1911 for example, even with slim grip panels, I can't reach the mag release with my thumb without severely shifting grip - No Sig P320 fans? I thought throwing that up there would get some fans, I saw Steve has a nice 2-tone FDE/Black one in stock.

Ah yes you are the guy who is beating me to the punch on the exit - my wife and I are going to look at suburbs of Raleigh area in September and maybe moving about an hour away from the city - our timeline is by end of next year at latest, ideally moved out within the next 12 months. Did you ever check to see if you can rent a locker at a gun shop or range out there? Would be easier to buy it, have it locked up and ready for when you move. Although, if you buy a compliant AR here, 30 round mags are cheap enough, you can always get the barrel threaded and fit a flash hider, and un-pin the stock or get a new one. Someone mentioned this and its a great idea - make the trip to Cabela's in DE and the price in the store includes NICS and no sales tax - they will only sell you compliant AR's but its a great option. I am stopping in on the way home from Raleigh in Sept. and I'll probably end up with a compliant S&W or Ruger because I know I won't be able to resist buying something there LOL But ideally, you want both. I love my Mossberg 500.

Updated Thread 9/14/16! Well one(more) permit left, burning a hole in my pocket (can't let them go to waste), lol! Suggestions? My Current lineup: -1911SS Taurus .45ACP -Taurus 605 - .357/.38 -Beretta Model 102 .22LR (old gun, similar to the "Sable" sold in the 70's) -Glock 26 Gen4 -Walther PPQ M2 9mm I'll get another GSSF purchase coupon next year (May) Most likely would go towards a G43 or G19 (if I dont have one by then). Trying to keep under $700 all in with any modifications. (I like to do night sights and have at least 3 mags, on my Glocks I like to change the mag release button and slide lock too) I'd still prefer to not add another caliber if possible (so that leaves 9mm or .45ACP options, I'm not looking to get another revolver right now), we have a Ruger 10/22 which shares ammo with the Beretta, although the Beretta is pretty old and doesn't get shot as much and I can't get magazines for it anymore either (its pushing 50 years old) - What should I use my last permit on? -Glock - G19 Gen4 (and use my GSSF next year on a different caliber Glock, maybe .45ACP, or the G43 to complete my trifecta of Glock 9mm) - I already have a mag for it so if I bought it I'd have 4 - -Sig P320 - (availability is scarce as can be though? and .45ACP Compact nowhere to be found) -VP9 (top of budget with the LE version, 3 mags and night sights) Anything else to add? Ambi features is a plus as I'm lefty, I would get a PPQ in 45 as I love my 9mm but the 9mm was a birthday present so I will hold off for a while. Here's my other deal: I have a gift card to one of the local NJ ranges which also happens to have a very decent firearms selection, with about $165 remaining on it (6-7 sessions worth) - I could use it at their store for my purchase and get the G19 for under Blue Label pricing, or a VP9 about $75 less than another LGS would sell it for. Or I could save the gift card for range time, and just pay regular price on a VP9, G19, etc - although I may be moving within the next year, would be nice to go to the range and not pay for it for the next 6-8 months - thoughts?

So sexy but too rich for my blood currently

Unless the 2nd Amendment is repealed you won't be forfeiting anything. Buy your compliant rifle now if you want it. It sucks we have to buy them this way in NJ (neutered) but even if NJ goes SAFE act and goes to 10 rounders, you'll be happy you had the 15 rounds from previous purchase. I'll be long gone from the PRNJ before Tubby is done in this state anyway. I don't care if some progressive dictator president either makes an executive action banning semi-automatic rifles (because I highly doubt Congress will pass such legislation in my lifetime, which actually goes to the President's desk to be signed into law) - you think I'm going to walk down to the government office to go and register it with them, or worse yet, turn in for confiscation? As far as the government is concerned all my rifles were destroyed and lost in a flood if they ever knocked on my door to ask.

Ouch - I grew up in White Twp and I never was more thankful to move out of that area of the state after college - 30+ minutes from civilization, terrible commute and traffic etc - I can see the NJSP out there are busy as ever LOL - wouldn't want to overwork the troopers out there who are camped on the same spots of 519, 46, and Rt. 80 being tax collectors.

^^This - if you have the coin, go for the XDM - But the Mod2 is a great pistol for the price -

Dude was an idiot but we need more women shooters period - Anthony @ GFH has it right - they are the future of the 2nd Amendment IMO, if we can't get young girls and more young women shooting, we may not make it another generation.

My buddy lives in Allamuchy (Panther Valley) and had to go to NJSP barracks in Hope I believe - the trooper told him 3 months minimum which I told him was bullshit - but out in the boonies where you are at the whim of the NJSP not much he can really do - who's he gonna complain to, Trenton? I think he turned in his paperwork 2 weeks ago and I still haven't gotten his reference letter from them yet (I am one of his references)

Hows their pricing on firearms they have to order in for you? I'd go to Art if I needed something ordered if they could order it for a reasonable price - I prefer doing that than ordering online and just using the FFL for transfer -

Sigh - very sad but yes RTSP has had 2 suicides in the past year or two as well - I agree with the "No Suicides Allowed" or "Free ride to GWB" sign - Tough part is that it stops me from going shooting with friends, wife, etc as often as I'd like to - I've had 2 couples decline going shooting with my wife and I in the past few months because "they heard people are blowing their brains out" at the ranges - word gets around and its not good to say the least. Even my wife is hesitant to go to the range when she thinks someone might be offing themselves that day.

XDS and Glock 30 are 2 totally different 45's. Glock 36 would be more comparable because it's a single stack but the 30 is the size of the 19 but wider and heavier but a lot.

How many did you leave for me LOL? I'm going in the AM bc I have no time to go at lunch at work today

^I'm with you I'm not affiliated with the R's anymore either (too many RINOs who spend happy hour with the Commies) - but they are the only ones that have a couple members who would stand up for 2A - I have been doing the most I can, talking up firearms as much as I can, asking new shooters to come to the range and shoot on my dime, wearing firearms related apparel hoping it sparks conversation - etc, I will most likely be long gone when Tubby is out, but in the meantime I will try the best I can to help, as a resident.

Unless you are doing heavy military use I don't think you need the heavy walled A1 barrel, just adds more weight to the front and the factory 500/590 barrels are extremely stout - I also think the Metal safety and trigger groups now come on the 590A1's only, the 500/590's get polymer safeties and triggers which work well and are very stout -

^^^I normally refuse Dicks as well - but I work close to the Union store so good to know, I'll hit it up at lunch tomorrow!

I'm guessing the "Gen 5" will be produced for agency use, tested, evaluated, and possibly tweaked slightly after a bit of use and then eventually opened up as a Gen 5 for sale for everyone - probably will take a couple years, and the Gen 3's will be phased out and then the Gen 5's will be sold next to Gen 4's with the 4's retail prices dropping slightly - IMO Or maybe all they did with the service pistol is just make a modified frame mold from the Gen 4, without finger grooves, and maybe not many other major changes, this could be why they won the contract as if they didn't modify much on the Gen 4 besides the frame they probably could have easily underbid Sig's P320 IMO - maybe it could be sold in the future as a "Gen 4+" or something, but now I'm thinking like Apple with iPhones lol

I heard this as well - I don't mind the finger grooves on my Gen4, quite comfortable - would be nice to have an ambidextrous slide stop however, as a lefty I use my trigger finger on my Gen4

I'll be grabbing some UMC 9mm, even without the mail in rebate $11.50 a box isn't bad

Well I guess I may as well go get a G19 now even though I just bought a G26 - I like to be as similarly armed as my government LMAO