Ricky_Bobby

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This is a great idea - I'd love to go and try a brew and talk 2A (and I'll wear my "All Rifles Matter" shirt lol) Saturday the wife and I might be going out to dinner, I'll mention maybe to her about this place and see what she says - tomorrow is shot as I gotta get the lawn cut because we have some work going on the house on Sat (and if my permits come in on Sat morning I'll be going up to RTSP to pick up my Glock) - Next weekend is shot for me as I'm going up to Canada to adopt a dog - crazy I know. But other than that pretty open on Saturdays, we work in Millburn so usually when we get home on Friday night we don't like to get changed and dressed and head back in that direction LOL

This is true - I'm always very cordial and respectful when I go to my local PD -

Thanks to Becca @ RTSP (she is awesome!!!!) I got the last BL Gen4 19 in stock! - paid for over the phone and should be picking up soon (hoping my permits come in today or tomorrow) - thanks to all who helped me out in this thread and with the great GSSF info - I can't make the Jersey match but definitely want to go to one of their events soon, even just as a helper to the staff to see how the matches run.

Honestly - between the guns you listed, get the PPQ - phenomenal trigger and smooth accurate shooting gun. Its reliable, stylish looking, watch Hickok45's video on it - he's a Glock guy and makes no bias but he really has trouble deciding between his Glock or the PPQ to carry. However, out of all the guns you listed, the M&P9 is the most wallet friendly BY FAR ($450 or so)- nothing wrong with an American made S&W either - the 17 round mags will need to be modified however. The Sig 320 is great but if you have larger or smaller hands and the gun does not fit your hands well out of the box you would need to buy a larger or smaller grip module for it - which is $40 from Sig. Also the modular platform is great but if you buy it for that feature honestly after you buy say a Subcompact conversion plus additional smaller mags you'd have enough money invested to buy another gun. The PPQ, VP9, Glock 19 have backstraps and side panels to tailor the fit for a shooter's hands. Steve @ MA has the PPQ for $590 as well as the Sig 320 ($575) and the G19 ($545), go try out all 3 and buy the one you want and have him hold it for you. Personally I will be getting a PPQ in .45ACP probably by August/September just because I shot one in 9mm and its amazing and the only .45 I have is my 1911 so I need to add another .45 in order to justify buying 1k rounds at a time LOL Good luck, let us know what you decide!

I read that link - from how I read it stay the hell out of Philadelphia if you are open carrying (first class city LOL) and gauge your neighborhood if you want to open carry. As a non-resident, I read that link again and it seems that non-residents of PA can carry openly unless I am mistaken? The non-resident permits are issued for people to carry concealed in PA ?

OK I kinda of had this dilemma recently, but what are you looking for in your pistol? If you're not a cop you wouldn't be needing for a carry gun because you know it doesnt exist in this state lol - unless you do a lot of traveling and hold a FL or UT, etc non-resident permit, so most likely for range gun you'd want some decent 9mm capacity. Are you looking at the Mod2 service model or the Subcompact 3" model? I only ask because you mentioned Glock 19, which the 4" Mod2 service model is slightly larger than (more comparable to a Glock 17 in size) - the subcompact is smaller than the 19 obviously, but bigger than a Glock 26 which is the same dimensionally (except for thickness and weight) as a Glock 43. Are you looking to add more Glocks in the future? Yes their system works well as far as interchangeability goes, but the 43 is kind of in its own league being a single stack, you won't be using Glock 19 mags in it, etc. Parts are not really that interchangeable with the double stack Glocks, for example Glock night sights are different on the 42/43. Also take into account FFL compliance work. EITHER XDMod2 you buy in 9mm will have to either have the Xtension mag modified for 15 rds (Subcompact) or both mags that it comes with modified for 15 rds (4" Service model) - shouldn't be much cost at your dealer, but something to keep in mind. The 19 is compliant at 15 rounds out of the box. Also take into account cost difference - Glock 19 street price usually around $550 or so, XD 4" service model approx $450, the Subcompact I've seen around $475 or so - so its dependent on your wallet. If it were me and me first gun purchase was for range or home defense, I personally would probably steer away from a 43 as a sole firearm being a single stack 9mm - you can get the same capacity in a sturdy and reliable 2" 357/38 revolver (and probably $100 less as well) - especially if you aren't needing for carry purposes For the money the XDM2's are great high quality guns with nice accessories in the box and I really like the fiber optic front sight as i'm cross dominant so the red up front really helps my sighting, go into your LGS and see if they have both in stock that you can hold and decide in person. I still may add one in the coming months. Just my 50cents worth, best of luck and hope it helps.

Yep except for Philly - the NH thing pertains to conceal carrying as a non-resident in PA

x3 would like to know, you may as well have said it in original post and get some publicity out there about this crap - and also I would HIGHLY recommend emailing the ANJRPC about it - [email protected] per that link provided

Well I called Heritage today and the 19 and 26 would have to be ordered - I may just get the 19 from RTSP in stock and grab a 26 at a later date - from what HG says if they special order a blue label it takes about a month or two - I don't feel like waiting that long LOL I spoke to Becca @ RTSP as well first about my BL purchase, and I know that the owner is on here, so I'd like to show my appreciation and give a forum member the business. Won't have my FL permit for a few months at least and I'm most likely moving to NC under 12 months from now - any carrying opportunity down south in the coming months can be taken care of for time being with my 605 wheelgun.

Omg those meme's LMAO i was spitting coffee at my desk reading the captions

^Would love to see the PD's laugh at that one - if you have the coin, do it and take it to the Court of the Supremes if you are denied.

If Trump was smart he would adopt Bernie's approach to guns to gain some votes but most of the Berners just want free college and stuff anyway. Frank I agree with you on many points - Christie, Carson, Giuliani, all RINO's and all would push for 10 rd cap - NICS on ammo sales, no private transfers, etc (CCW to any of those guys LOL - Trump would probably take Cuomo as Attorney General "we did many great deals together and I like his family" and we'd have a nationwide SAFE act to appease Newtown CT) - they probably would push for a national firearms license like a drivers license. Is Trump going to go against all of their beliefs and tell them he feels differently or is he going to call his cabinet to make a big beautiful deal that's good for everyone? Similar to some of the police in this state (IMO) who if given the question of whether normal citizens should be able to get a CCW because its their right would tell you heck no they shouldn't because it would put their lives in danger on more opportunities, when 44+ other states have those situations daily and their police would not complain. The problem is Trump is trying to appeal to moderates already, and will have to move more and more left in order to take votes from Crooked Criminal Clinton, IMO - he's already told the Berners they are welcome, and they are socialists. Yet he has the R next to his name which used to be the party of conserving the individual rights of the Constitution and limited government and 10th Amendment states rights. This is my dilemma and what keeps me skeptical - his NRA speech was great but I'd like to see it on a national debate stage and actually call Hillary out for cities with crime and no gun rights as she supports those - However, the media is already swept up in making history so lets be honest any debate between HRC and Trump will basically be called every morning news cycle "another bigoted attack on women by Trump" - Just my 50cents, I'm more of a Libertarian than a Republican nowadays (although I don't agree with the LP platform on open borders at all) and most likely would pull the lever for Trump, but to me its very sad - as I said it in 2008 and in 2012 that "there's no way they can give us a 'lesser of 2 evils' " choice anymore, and yet they did it again. A 60+ year liberal who now wears the R tag vs a 60+ year socialist - I just hope I'm wrong and that HRC doesn't have the last laugh (or Obama if he pulls her and goes to Uncle Joe, which I think can still happen by the end of the month if she doesn't diffuse the Bernie situation and he rides on to the convention with his angry supporters or about 40%+ of the Dem base) - I hope Trump proves a lot of us wrong.

^^Do it.

Thanks for the quick response! You are making NJ great again

Steve the mag release button on the PPS M2 isn't reversible is it?

^No problem man - let me know if you end up getting one what you think of it - if your LGS doesn't have it in stock then you can get it from Buds - only thing is if you are getting the 9mm you would probably want to order it from the LGS as he can modify the Xtension mag for 15 rounds (factory is 16 which I'm sure you know) - if you order from Buds they will only ship the Commie state version which is 2 - 10 rd mags - Ew. - I'm also talking about the Subcompact by the way - I haven't looked into the 4" models but those are probably what you're looking into. I'm looking at another .45 after I get my Glock and the Mod2 is one of the ones I'm considering, along with the PPQ 45.

In bold is what they are hoping for - maybe they can draft Merrick Garland as he's itching to do something with his life I'm sure.

Thats pretty good Frankie and welcome! The Glock 19 is a great first firearm, I did mine the reverse and I actually have a few other pistols but am getting my first Glock (most likely a 19 Gen 4) within a week or two. Your PD sounds pretty friendly and efficient, that is good to hear! I dropped off my permit paperwork approximately 3-4 weeks ago so mine should be ready soon as well, as my town is also one of the more efficient ones.

Mod 2 or just XD? I personally think the XD Mod 2 is a great series of pistol and wouldn't hesitate to buy it - I am still debating and may still buy a Mod2 in .45ACP in the coming months - I like the ambidextrous controls, Xtension mag, I actually do like the Grip Zone, and the fiber optic front sight - its a good pistol for the money and what you get! I also think the bi-tone models are super sharp!

^^Thanks! Now I will ask HG when I call not only their in stock inventory but also pricing - RTSP follows Blue Label pricing which is nice.

^^Will do for sure before I make the 30 minute trip - I'll also call Heritage and see what they have in inventory - will keep you guys posted

I am finding this out, and I agree I wish they wouldn't - I was always under the impression when new to Glocks that the Blue Label pricing was just discounted for qualified people, i.e. if a shop had a G30 Gen4 it could be sold at retail or Blue Label pricing if you qualified, not that it was an actual separate firearm that is designated by Glock and if your LGS doesn't have any (and I'm sure they don't make as much $$ on them) then you are SOL until they come in stock I emailed HG and they are great with quick responses but couldn't tell me their current Blue Label inventory on hand at their locations, and said that they would have to order what I wanted if the Blue Label version wasn't in stock, and I appreciate the time frame but they told me it could be 10 days or it could be up to 2-3 months (who has time for that lol) - I am looking for a 19 or 26 right now (probably 19 first, and might pay regular pricing for a 26 in a couple months as they are harder to come by Blue Label - Also in the market for 30 Gen 4, but I want to get my 9mm's first. I will most likely be visiting RTSP this weekend for a BL G19 - I'll call HG to see if they have a BL G26 and BL G19 (I'd like to compare both in person as it would probably be a CCW when I'm down in NC, but I'll be honest I'll probably own both in the next 6 months) but RTSP has the live inventory on the site so pretty easy to see before I make the trip. Still waiting on my permits to arrive (I'm currently just under 4 weeks) but I have my FPID and my GSSF so that should be enough to make my purchase. Thanks for all the help guys!

^The above is perfect Dwight - thank you for fighting for us!

I use the 3M orange ear plugs from Depot - they are like 32 or 33db reduction which is more than many muffs - cheap too and less bulk to take to the range