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Got a call from local PD, they wanted to know whether or not my brother's first-time drug possession charge from 2015 was completely dismissed or conditionally dismissed (it was completely dismissed). They asked whether we live together, which we do. I've got another brother at home who had a DWI in 2012. They said the drug charge was "more of a concern" to them. The officer is going to confirm the dismissal and he said I'll hear back from them. People, tell me WTF is happening to me here? Are my pistol permits about to be denied? When I applied for P2P they also at the time noticed an error on their part on my original FID which they are working on replacing; they wrote my FID# in the date box. I still have the original. Are they going to revoke my FID too now that they caught wind of this BS? FYI my brother was wrongfully accused and arrested a year ago and the charges were DISMISSED. Ten years ago the kid completed outpatient therapy and graduated magna cum laude from college. The other dimwit brother with the DWI is a schoolteacher. Yeah. We're REAL dangers to society.

Yea all cuz the lovechild of the Gestapo and KBG has its greasy fingers and all seeing eye in every ammo box East of the wall

Just tried SGammo for first time; shipping is cheaper than others and it's going out tomorrow. *Finally swore off Cheaper than Dirt. I'm one of those suckers who idiotically gave them my documents. Dig this: it's been a while since I ordered from them and they wanted me to send a copy of my new driver's license lol, as if it's something they run! Such arbitrary bulls***, they take "cover your a**" way too seriously. It's like the P2P process here. Sgammo is better: cheaper prices and shipping. There's a reason they sell out of stuff left and right.

4/14 Applied for P2P's in Wall Twp. Filled out an EXTRA applicant questionnaire because it is de facto required if you want to see your permits in a year 6/29 Finally get a voicemail: officer assigned to my "firearm investigation" wants more details on my two brothers' arrests. I don't believe this s***. They provided a small line to write on I couldn't fit it all. They really want to know about a DWI arrest in 2012 and a dismissed drug possession charge in 2015 by people who aren't the applicant. I'll try to get this chooch on the phone tomorrow morning. Anyone heard of permits being denied for immediate family members having a DWI or dismissed 1st-time-offense drug charges?

I can't see how ID'ing someone for ammunition is illegal, can you explain further?

Mosincrate.com Hickok45 got a gorgeous rifle from this guy so I checked it out. He brings in batches of rifles, all kinds not just Mosins, and even pistols. He posts pictures, descriptions and prices of each firearm on the website on Sunday evenings and opens sales the following morning at a set time. Prices are good and each firearm is hand selected; he doesn't flip junk on you. If your order is the first one in for a particular firearm he calls you personally to process payment. Very nice guy and knowledgeable.

I'm really lucky. For years I was too lazy to do the paperwork (it was surprisingly effortless, especially for the reward). I heard about the M1 Carbines and I said screw it, I'm going for one. In the process I discovered they were illegal here and since I was so deep into the paperwork I said screw it again. Ordered a Service Grade and Field Grade Garand back in February a few days after the Carbine rush. It took them FOREVER to get to my envelope. They acknowledged my order two months later and I finally got them in mid-May. I'm appreciative of it because at the time of mailing the paperwork I wasn't aware of being smack in the middle of an insane buying frenzy. The hard part now is I'm seeing what quality the rifles were a few years ago when I was too lazy to do the paperwork! They were even more of a STEAL back then. Gorgeous with the original finishes on them. Now they're all reparkerized. Still worth it though and I suggest you should all keep tabs on their sales announcements and have paperwork ready to send in. I say that because next time they open sales, it'll be for the kill. They projected their supply will end mid 2017. With that piece of info, an election year coming up, and this current freeze on orders, a lot of people will be waiting with their paperwork ready to be mailed. With the amount of orders they were getting, and how long they take to fill orders (3-4 months), they may not open up sales until September, right when panic buying will be going on for the election. And you better bet that people will be saving up money for when they do. I'll be sitting that one out though. Two is enough for me, for life. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for those 1911's, and praying handguns aren't made illegal before they're released, IF they're not melted down per recent draft legislation.

The young girl asked me for ID (I look young) and she said the manager no longer allows sale of at least handgun ammo I think to NJ. She said they don't know our laws and it's for their protection. I asked her when they started this new policy and she said fairly recently, few months ago maybe. Perhaps this has to do with that stupid thing going on at Easton with the lawsuit? She stumbly said something like "I don't know who here might have sold to you before, maybe someone else" and I had a huge ? over my head. Anyway I decided not to make it a big deal and I called Bristol and they said they haven't heard of this nonsense so I went over there. Problem solved. I want to check out somewhere else though because Bristol has a tiny island they sell ammo from, very limited only two brands MAX of any caliber.

Wall Township FID back in 2010 took 3 months P2P permits applied for on 4/14/16 -Local PD does its own additional reference letters. Also says to fill out applicant questionaire form which they ask that you bring, despite asterisk'ing it saying its "voluntary" which we all know is BS cuz they'll hold permits up if you don't do it. Huge PITA -Was told on 6/7/16 "detective has a lot of paperwork, should be a month or so" -So chalk Wall up as the gold standard 3 month wait time, or I should say systemically 2 months late

Steve at Monmouth Arms is great. Very personable and honest. Small shop with chairs and a couch; you'll meet some characters every time you're there. Low transfer fees and he posts inventory and prices on website which appear reasonable. He'll fire NICS up in the morning for you so you're clear when he opens up shop. One time Fedex failed to deliver a long gun to him so his wife went all the way to Fedex, talking hour round trip, on last minute notice and I didn't even ask. This was for a transfer mind you. If you want the kind of FFL you build a relationship with, he's your guy. Just an old school businessman.

PatrolEyes, he is permitted to discharge firearms on his property. That's all I know, in practice that SHOULD be enough but this state is goofy.

Ooo interesting, in Section II.C of the recent guidelines, the "application of the standard" says specifically that transportation can only occur between the locations SPECIFICALLY LISTED, thus NOT leaving what an "authorized place" is up to interpretation. They messed it up, because this section defines what they said in the existing law 2c:39-6g, "OR other authorized place". They basically tightened that restriction in the new guidelines, while loosening the deviation limit so people can stop at a gas station to drop a deuce.

I was under the impression they were going after the whole thing, could be wrong. Just so we're on the same page, the transport/exception/deviation was already on the books, and Christie's exec order or whatever it was basically expedited permits for restraining orders as well as added clarification to the transport/exception/deviation thing, is that accurate?

Yea that's kinda what I'm getting at. I don't shop there for anything else.

I filed my mags that were too tight. I found that the area above the mag catch tab on the mags was jamming it up; the sheet metal was folded uneven and some of it protruded upwards. That has fixed the issue with my steel mags from Estrella, they had 20's pinned to 15, they're awesome, and my magpuls.

Isn't the recent clarification about to be voted down by the legislature anyway? I don't know why they'd waste their breath, it's probably the least significant thing ever written on paper; doesn't change doodoo.

Sweet I'll check them out for sure. Got WWB 9mm and .40 cal 300 rds each in Bristol and ended up paying only a few bucks more than online, but I'd prefer a wider selection. I like S&B and American Eagle, cheaper end brass.

How are prices/selection at those places?

I think it's just paranoia. I reckon we all call ahead from now on, they ain't gona send out an APB.

The girl at Bensalem said it was for their protection, but in retrospect she also alluded that "someone else here may or may not sell to you". She said her manager made this new policy, citing that they don't know NJ laws which is retarded. I immediately went over to Bristol, which had a smaller selection but they had the essentials (WWB, Perfecta, Federal). They didn't even ID me. Very nice there though, very lax. Since I got you all in here, what are the nearby Walmarts like? Levittown or Easton for instance?

Walmart in Bensalem is no longer selling ammo to NJ residents. Girl was lame too. I had to rephrase the question "WHEN did this change?" times. They made change very recently.

Don't get me wrong I won't take any of this as gospel. I was just making sure it isn't at least common knowledge that this SHOULDN't be done.

Thanks, that's kinda the answer I was looking for. I haven't heard of people being busted driving to their friend's house either, it's just I heard about a recent case involving a "deviation" from the route to and from the range and I started familiarizing myself with state law. I guess the trick is to store the arms lawfully in the back and not get pulled over. As long as it's one of those stupid gray areas that most people ignore then that's good enough for me. I don't like taking chances, but at the same time I don't want to drive an hour and pay to use a range when I can shoot on my buddy's backyard.

State troopers are typically courteous, but locals are just so unpredictable. My friend has been shooting on his property for years. My only concern is being pulled over on the way there and being booked.

Thank you all for the insight so far, I'm not surprised at the ambiguity (spelt/used that word right?) of the law. So it's a risk, if a cop wanted to be a d***. My next question would be: what if we each shot only our respective handguns, and not each other's? i.e. no actual "transfer" occurs?