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Are there any non-specific coupon codes floating around? I'm looking to pick up something from stack-on…

His (her?) math is correct. If you sign up for the 2A tier ($275), and go once a week (52 weeks) to shoot your handgun ($5/hr) you pay an additional $260 over the course of the year. If you also go to shoot your rifle ($7.50/hr) once a week, you pay an additional $390 over the course of a year. $260 (handgun) + $390 (rifle) = $650 $650 + $275 (membership) = $925 It's less expensive if you go less often but I think most people here are interested in maximizing their range time. Even if you alternate weeks (handguns half the time, rifles the other half), the total is more than double the average membership rate further south, which usually includes unlimited range time: $130 (hangun x 26 wks) + $195 (rifle x 26 weeks) = $325 $325 + $275 (membership) = $600 In either scenario, if you shoot with your spouse/significant other add an additional $260 onto the total ("additional Shooter/1-Guest (Same Port): $5").

An excellent read, though I wish it were less depressing. Thank you for posting as I might not have seen it otherwise.

The same is true for Garden State Shooting Center and Shore Shot.

Most kids already feel like school is "jail", I don't think this is going to help matters in that department. I know some areas welcome police presence in schools but in other areas it's a waste of money and resources. Better to train and arm the people that are there day-in, day-out—teachers and administrators—instead of spending more money on cops who don't always have the best rapport with students.

I'm surprised they don't have a "couple" or "family" tier.

Cool site! I found my township though it only includes legislation adopted through 12/2013.

The current estimate is $542,000,000 USD to get things moving, and it's only going to go up the longer the ships sit, unable to dock. The situation doesn't affect my day-to-day but I am curious to see what happens.

Exactly. This is the issue I have. If I needed references for a job I'd have my pick, but for firearms applications? I can count those on one hand.

Seeing that Monmouth County taxpayers are on the hook for any missed payments thanks to the Monmouth County Board of Chosen Freeholders (the lone exception was Freeholder John P. Curley) we better get a range.

If I remember earlier threads correctly, there was a debate about loaded mags at SAFE con and Nappen maintained it shouldn't be done. Transportation of loaded mags would probably be tossed out in court, eventually, but the unlucky victim is probably looking at being separated from their firearm(s) for at least a few weeks (possibly longer) and a lawyer's bill/court costs somewhere in the range of $3-$5K. Spending two minutes of range time (and that's all it takes with an UpLuLa) loading mags for the first go-round is worth it to me to avoid the aforementioned mess. YMMV. An intruder with malicious intent in a home defense situation is different. In that scenario, the first weapon I get my hands on is the one I use be it a baseball bat, spoon or one of my husband's firearms.

Yes, but what did he say when you pointed this out? The current edition of New Jersey Gun Law (thank you T. Bill for the page number) states explicitly that there is no exemption for spouses, only minors. Applying common sense, the situation is similar to a husband or wife driving a car (requires a license, potentially dangerous) registered in the other's name, but this is NJ… Why not take her to a local range and rent? She doesn't need an FID for that and she'll be able to shoot what she's interested in, which is better than just holding it in a store.

Ill-conceived, poorly worded NJ law? I'm stunned, stunned I tell you…

My husband isn't allowed to touch my Beretta anyway. 2C:58-3.1-3.2 also apply, or rather, don't apply... This state, ay, ay, ay…

Not to derail the thread, but this is something that I'd like clarification on.

If she was committed to a mental health institution or facility, voluntarily or involuntarily, she'll need an expungement of her mental health record to qualify for an FID according to what I just read in New Jersey Gun Law. That is the only "mental health" disqualification, as far as I know.

Welcome to the forums! Tell the wife to stop by too. Kudos to the expeditious sheriff.

For items of this size and weight, I like to buy local. I've learned the hard way that online retailers *cough*Amazon*cough* think it's acceptable for me to have to haul a 100lb (or more) item to my local UPS store when they deliver something that looks like it fell off the back of a truck and then got run over. Better that I support local business, and that I can check the item before leaving the store premises. In the past I have wheeled things at brick & mortar stores straight from the checkout/exit back to the entrance/customer service because I discovered defects. I'd rather pay $5-$15 more for something to make sure it's as it should be, than save that amount online only to find I then need to spend time and gas arranging a return. Electric safes do not interest me. To each their own, but I would never willingly rely on something that could be disabled because the battery ran out or someone unplugged it. I miss landlines and rotary dial; I remember just how useless FIOS and wireless handsets were after Sandy… I considered Stack-on but…

Can you point me to current tax code for this? Discussion with a cashier and/or store manager turns out better when I can whip out proof.

As someone interested in the same, my research so far leads me to believe that you get what you pay for. The safes you see in places like Dick's that run from $200-$700 are a deterrent, they're not going to keep out anyone with a crowbar and a few minutes, and they're not heavy enough to prevent someone pressed for time from wheeling them out your front door to dismantle at their leisure in another place. The thick doors on most are cosmetic. Don't take just my word for it: http://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/#myth-thicker-door-is-stronger They're probably good enough for keeping kids out, but that's about all. I am willing to make the investment in a Graffunder but space is an issue. I'm still looking for a solution. I'm also trying to find out if gun safes are still tax exempt in NJ. Previously they were exempted under 54:32B-8.50 & -8.51, but that appears to have expired (circa 2012?)

The math I'm citing comes from this Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density But understand that the density per mile has nothing to do with targets being a mile away. When anti-gun advocates speak about population density, they're talking about the difference between this: (street scene—Helena, Montana) and this: (street scene—New York City) A MADMAN could do more damage in a densely populated area simply by virtue of having more targets. The two settings are different. However my point is that the risk to either type of area from law-abiding, legal gun owners with the right to carry is the same: ZERO. The public faces no greater threat from New Jersey (greatest pop. density) gun owners than they do from Alaska (least pop. density) gun owners

You can definitely make that argument for offices, schools, maybe even movie theaters, but "walking on streets"… NJ is ranked No. 1 for population density by square mile (over 1,200 people/mi²) versus Montana hanging out in 48th place (7 people/mi²). But the issue isn't whether or not the population of a given area has higher density, the issue is whether law-abiding citizens remain law-abiding citizens if given the right to carry. The obvious answer to me is OF COURSE they remain law-abiding citizens, but anti-gun supporters live by the equation: more law-abiding people + more legally carried guns = more gun crime The failure of logic is strong with that group. I can't decide who I more, Miculek or hickok45.

Don't forget to give equal credit to Sandra Cunningham (District 31), co-sponsor. We should all call Ruiz (973-484-1000) to point that out: give us CCW and firearms IDs will automatically have photos. win-win

The deviations are what concern me since it's handguns we have. We want to go to the range with our friend (the one who got us into shooting) but if I'm reading the PA State Police site correctly, without a CCW having dinner with him or visiting his home for a few hours (i.e. deviations) would be a misdemeanor of the first degree. I tried calling the PA State Police a few weeks ago, but no one ever picks up the phone over there and I wasn't enthusiastic to leave my contact information on some random voicemail. 6105 and 6109 provide a list of who's prohibited from having firearms, and what those residing in the commonwealth need to do for a license to carry, but neither addresses out-of-state owners as far as I can tell. It seems like it's not worth chancing and we'll just wait on our FL CCW. Who knows, with any luck PA acting AG, Castor, will reinstate the original FL/PA reciprocity agreement before Bruce Beemer is confirmed. If not, time to fill out the NH application…

If one does not have a CCW from PA (or a reciprocating state) can one transport a firearm to a PA range with just the range use permit?