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Well, I emailed the chief around 5:15pm and he just responded - "Since it is after hours, I was unable to check on the status of your application. I have already made an inquiry with the commander of the bureau. We will make contact with you tomorrow. Thanks" You can't ask for much more than that. Very professional and helpful. The bureau guy might be a little upset though, for having the chief bust his chops, I guess I'm going to find out. LOL. Send bail money if you don't hear from me.

The thing is; they’re unresponsive and will be combative if I go in person. Hence the email route. If they’re belligerent in email I’d send that to an attorney.

Well, i called the Hudson courthouse today at 60+ days since my application submittal and the clerk (who wasn’t particularly friendly) said she is responsible for all permits in the area and has not received mine. Any suggestions on the next step? I’m inclined to send an email to the acting Chief of my town, but I’d like to be careful about coming off like a jerk. Anybody have the same issue? How did you go about it?

Purchased US lawshield last week based on your previous advice - I think it's an incredibly important backup when you're dealing with possible life-altering legal issues.

Update from Hoboken/Hudson County - I'm now at 61 days since submitting my application. No letter from the PD or the courts; and the PD guy has not returned at least two VM's that I've left him over the past week to discuss the fingerprint issue that I *think* was resolved. I'm trying to be patient, but it seems like folks here have had some success with calling the courts to get a sense of whether they've even received the package to approve. Who did you call? Is there a general administrator at the courthouse that you called? Thanks all.

Harrumph! The tenets of malfeasance look pretty straightforward, but I wonder how much judges really worry about that. There must be some way to pressure the courts to do their jobs properly - maybe StrikeForce is the stick. Of course, the state sits at the poker table with our unlimited tax money, so the only chance for even a meager push is a lawsuit that negates state defense representation for the misfeasor.

I'm at 60 days on Saturday. Might try calling the court clerk middle of next week if nothing happens per advice here.

Good luck! It seems like the outcomes are mostly OK so hopefully you'll get through fast.

Well that gives me hope! I will definitely update when something happens.

The PO was pretty nasty to me because he was forced by the chief to take my application after I emailed him stating that if he refused to take it, I would just go to the NJSP as an alternative. He already hasn't responded to any messages I've left him regarding the retaking of fingerprints and the confirmation from the NJSP. It has been at least 10 days with no response. They are used to being in a position where there is nothing you can do, and they are not liking this new era of pushback. That's the sense I get. It might be worth quietly recording interactions, as the PO denied that he refused to take my application and said he told me to 'come back sometime next week' which he certainly did not.

Same with me - the PO told me he makes up a number based on his own filing system to keep track of applicants. There is no standard that he was aware of, and he didn't even seem to care if I put any number in there. He said he could find me by name and DOB regardless.

The thing is, the PO told me he felt the fingerprinting was not really necessary since my fingerprints were on file associated with my FID. He felt that it is redundant. He did tell me that he didn't feel any particular urgency to submit the applications to the court, he would get to it when he felt like it (I'm paraphrasing, of course). I mentioned the 60 day thing and he laughed it off.

Thanks Sam - Identogo went around in circles regarding the fingerprinting process. They claimed that it was 'out of their hands once the results were transmitted to the NJSP', meaning they did their part and any issue was outside of their control. They simply repeated that endlessly and refused to do anything for me, including waiving any fees. I disputed the charge with my credit card, and it appears they didn't push back so I got the $90 back - and then spent it for the second visit. There should be no issues for me; I've been background checked for military SCIF authorizations as well as NYPD ridiculously thorough checks for similar reasons (projects that require secrecy). Identogo is awful to deal with, they essentially have no customer service at all.

Just an update regarding Hoboken - application submitted 7/5 (after they first told me 'we aren't ready to accept any applications yet', sent an email to the chief per advice from this board and they immediately called me to come back and submit; thanks guys!) 60 days is up on Saturday, and the only thing I heard so far was that my Identogo fingerprint check never went through to the NJSP. Identogo was no help, claiming it's 'not their problem'. I went and got re-fingerprinted, and a day later called the NJSP ID bureau and they confirmed that they received and updated my PD with an approval. They were very organized and pleasant, to my surprise. No letters, no communications other than that. Not sure what to do after this weekend comes and goes other than wait and see what happens. Has anyone called the courthouse to figure out status? I feel like Hudson county is simply going to sit on it and not do anything. The PO that took my application laughed me out of the room when I mentioned the Bruen decision - he said it's 'not gonna happen in Hudson county' and be prepared for disappointment.

Hi All, I submitted my application today in Hoboken. My trials and tribulations to get to this point are on the NJ CCW resources thread, if you're interested. The officer that took the packet looked it over very carefully and then said "they'll do the background check immediately and then submit it to the State Police/Superior Court for approval before a judge". He also said "You know you're in Hudson County, right? I wouldn't get my hopes up that a judge will approve this. I mentioned the SCOTUS decision and the guidance from the AG; but he remained skeptical that I would get an approval. The question is: what is my recourse if they reject it on flimsy grounds, or simply don't give an explanation? Thanks

I had an appointment at 10:15 and it was over by about 11:15. I was at the Hoboken PD by 12 noon. The ink wasn't even dry on the certificate.

No holster, no barricade, just straight up timed fire at the yardages. 80% in the milk bottle of the Q target to pass - all the same target throughout the course of fire. Mine looked like swiss cheese by the end with a few fliers. The fliers happened because I was using 9mm reloads that were horribly made - against Tunamans advice to just buy a box of factory rounds. LOL. Had at least 6 FTF, where I couldn't tell if it was a hangfire or failure to go fully into battery. Threw me off. The instructor noted this and took away the duds after waiting to ensure they didn't go off, then allowed me to continue.

The qualification was very organized and straightforward according to the specifics in the statute for ranges (7yds-25yds). There was a safety briefing and we were also given a signable use of force document to turn in if requested by the PD. Please note - in my 13 port line; I saw at least three people fail. They missed the Q target. The instructor went to them once they missed a few at 7 yds and warned them that they would fail if they kept missing. They essentially failed in the first 25 rounds or so. My score was 94%.

UPDATE - The officer (Simone) just called me and said "Bring in your application!" The email to the chief must have gone over really well, because he was unhappy. This is an FYI to others in similar situations. Thanks to all for the help!

Absolutely, yes. The only thing that would get any sort of motion on this is media coverage - and we know that's not going to happen. I suspect that even a call from an attorney would be laughed off.

Mr.Stu - just sent the chief, Aguiar, an email detailing this as you stated above. I don't expect a reply, but it is worth documenting as you stated. I told him I consider the 60 day application period started from 6/30. I'm sure I'm going to the bottom of the list now, unfortunately, but at least I might get them moving for others that are in the same position.

Hi All, I went from qualifying at GFH (Thanks Anthony!) to my PD in Hoboken yesterday morning to submit my CCW package. They refused to accept it because "the officer that performs that duty is off today". I left my number, and the officer (Simone) told me he would not accept it and not to bother coming back today. He said they "need to create a number system, and we can't have people running around with CCW's that we can't keep track of". He told me to call Tuesday at the earliest to see what the status is, but it sounds like they are just going to refuse to accept submittals until Phil Murphy comes up with a way to block it completely. What can I do? I suggested that I could submit to the State Police instead and he got belligerent. He said he would tell them that he told me I could submit Tuesday - even though that isn't what he said. I feel like my rights are being violated.

I'll take it! (44 Mag) Thanks.