124gr9mm

I'm a shotgun fan, and I am very happy with my KSG. I've had mine for about 4 years and I've run every combination of ammo through it. THe only time I experienced an "issue" was in the final stage of a long, hot 3 gun match where I short-shucked the gun a couple of times with low brass/birdshot, but otherwise there have been zero issues. I consider all of my guns home defense weapons, so in a situation where a shotgun is warranted (or happens to be the gun available) I have no reservations reaching for the KSG. Getting used to the ergonomics takes a little time, but with some snap-caps and dry fire practice the gun becomes intuitive and easy to manage. KSG earned their shaky reputation by rolling out the KSG too early. The Gen 1 versions were released to market with some basic updates still needed, so the first buyers were essentially still beta testers. They fixed things with the Gen 2 guns, so IMO they're squared away. There will be plenty of people who reply to this thread who have never fired a KSG who will talk about hands getting blown off, parts breaking, "I know a guy who...", etc, etc, so your best bet is to go to a range and rent one to see how you like it.

Yes, you can even find people on Craigslist and other local marketplaces who are looking to get rid of lead.

I appreciate your point, and reloading is not for everyone. For someone like you who is financially able to stockpile factory ammo, it may not make sense to have a reloading room setup (provided you have enough to last through the panic). Some (like me) have a bit of a mixed model where we'll grab good deals on factory ammo when available (people moving, retiring from shooting, dumping unused inventory, etc) as well as grabbing up deals on reloading components. Also, your 16 cent/round ammo is NOT an apples to apples comparison to my reloads. Even when I use coated 124 gr bullets (in pretty colors) they're essentially match-grade and loaded to operate well in my pistols. Rifle ammo is even more extreme as it's dialed in over lots of time at the range with a chronograph. Again, different strokes for different folks, but I think you dismiss the benefits of reloading without fully understanding it.

How about some pictures?

Like others, the time I spend on reloading is off the clock time that many/most other people use for watching TV or surfing the web. Instead, I sit at the reloading bench with a movie or TV show playing on a tablet and I make ammo. When I'm working from home I sometimes leverage a coffee break as well. For example, I needed to get some 9mm brass cleaned, so on my way upstairs for coffee I loaded 2 tumblers with brass and steel pins. That took about a minute. While upstairs I filled the tumblers with water, Dawn soap, and lem-shine, AND filled my coffee. Another minute. Went back downstairs towards my office and detoured to put the tumblers on the spinning machine adn turned it on. MAYBE 20 seconds. The cases will tumble for a few (or more) hours until I have time to turn them off, rinse, and drain. I let my cases air dry for a few days so this process is again only a few minutes. Once you understand what reloading is about and develop a system, you don't have to sink large chunks of billable hours to it.

Did you pay for it (in full) in advance? Might be best to take a ride over there...

The link to the bankruptcy stuff is 2 years old, so I think your membership is safe. Bankruptcy is frequently done to restructure and manage debt, so 2 years later the range appears to be functioning well.

I know I'll get slammed for this opinion, but that's OK. We're all gun owners and many of us share very similar beliefs so we'll still be friends. If I was the NRA/ANJRPS this would be towards the bottom of my list of things to direct my limited pool of money/resources to. Being able to carry, getting rid of the magazine capacity ban, and fixing the arcane pistol permit/FID processes would be my focus. Having a Honey Badger Pistol or any other short AR for a range toy doesn't mean shit to me. I think the restrictions on AR pistols and SBR's are stupid (like many of the gun laws out there) but the makers of the "Honey Badger Pistol" were looking for a fight that didn't need to be fought right now. They had custom braces made for their pistol and rifle that were almost identical. And instead of getting an ATF letter first, they went to market with them: https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/20180616_140711.jpg After enough views online of people doing what they do the ATF decided they couldn't tell the difference so the Honey Badger wins the next prize in "You asked for it...You got it". So now 2A groups have to jump into the fray to save this company that was asking for a fight? Self-inflicted wound IMO.

Manufacturers test boundaries. Looks like the Honey Badger found one. I guess like their telescoping brace eliminated the pretense that it was a pistol instead of a rifle. Would be good if they had the resources to pursue a lawsuit, but I suspect that a six figure endeavor...

Sounds like you'll have a fun day! I believe the long distance range switches from 200 yards to 300 yards at 1:00, so be sure to get there early if you want to shoot at 200. For the past few weeks I haven't seen tons of people on that range, but I go during the week, so a Saturday could be different. Yes, there are tons of targets up at the plinking range, so you'll have fun there. It's too bad there's an event at the shotgun range. The 5 stand is very fun.

"Low Penetration Safety Bullets" Even better...

I am absolutely going to call them safety bullets from now on.

I'll take 2 sealed boxes and the 1 opened box. PM sent

That'll leave a mark...

I don't understand why he won't put up a No Parking sign. You don't need to have a home business to have a No Parking sign. Tell him to put up the sign so people will know that they can't park there and that they'll be towed away if they do. Based on what you've said Jeep guy may have no idea that anyone cares he's parking in the spot. Randomly putting a boot on someones vehicle is a mistake IMO. A tow company isn't going to take a car away if there's no sign and an argument about why the tow is taking place. Not sure the police will do anything other than save your friend from an angry guy in a Jeep. Putting up a sign solves all of the problems: - Clearly notifies everyone that it's a private parking spot and that violators will be towed at their expense - Allows the tow companies to actually come and get the car - Provides backup if the police need to get involved.

I'm also a fan of having the same magazine for PCC and pistol.

The gymnastics comment was regarding your other posts. If you're using an internet forum to determine whether or not you're committing a felony you're setting yourself up for failure. Got to NJ State published information instead: https://www.state.nj.us/oag/dcj/agguide/transporting-firearms_guide.pdf "While not an exclusive list, some examples of stops or detours in the course of travel to or between locations that would qualify as reasonably necessary include: collecting and discharging passengers; purchasing fuel, food and beverages, medication, or other needed supplies; using a restroom; contending with an emergency situation; or driving around a traffic jam."

Respectfully, you're going through a lot of mental gymnastics to try to get people on the internet to tell you (very specifically) what NJ gun laws will allow you to do, and going through "what if" scenarios regarding what may or may not lead to charges. NJ gun laws aren't written that way. If you DON'T want to risk being a test case in court somewhere: Only have a firearm in your vehicle if you're going to/from an approved location (range, gun shop, residence, etc.). Gun(s) cased and unloaded, ammo in separate container(s), in trunk or out of arms reach. Reasonable deviations for food/bathroom. If you want to be "that guy" and test the letter of the law: Follow the advice of the people online who tell you to do other than above. Interpret the ass-backwards laws ANY WAY YOU WANT and roll the dice. Cops don't litigate on the side of the road, so the more extreme your view of the law (like the previous example of waving the long gun out a window) the more likely it is that you'll get a chance to discuss it in court.

Death by a thousand cuts. He didn't get the big increases he wanted so in order to get a "win" against gun owners he does this. I guess he figures a dollar is too insignificant for ANJRPC to sue him, so this will be the new "regular" increase...

Yes, I considered that aspect of it as well. If you had an import contract right now you'd be sitting pretty, but the margins are very slim in "normal" times when we can buy 9mm ammo for $0.15/round. Add the challenges of shipping, storage, distribution, customs, US taxes, foreign national taxes, foreign local taxes, etc, etc, and it makes it challenging to see a return on investment for bottom-shelf items. Sportsman's Guide is a good example of an organization that has the capital and resources available to do it from time to time. That's why we see a lot of one time sales of off-brand import ammo from them.

Supply and demand. In "normal" times there's not enough demand to make it profitable. There were several ammo companies that I'm aware of that started up after the last panic started (just before the Trump Presidential election). They had early success because demand was still high, but as the panic eased they found it difficult to stay in business so they either folded or did bankruptcy reorgs.

I wasn't aware of that. It was my understanding that there was no broad database available. Local PD's receive a copy of the purchase permit, but I didn't know there was a database where the information was loaded/stored.

If you think about it, that's the same process as buying online from a place like Bud's or Gunbroker. You complete the sale first, and then the seller delivers the gun to your FFL. Seller has his money and your FFL has the gun.

My wife mentioned that to me theis weekend. She said it was like some kind of mass squirrel execution took place on Rt. 23.

So in these imaginary scenarios you're leaving firearms in your vehicles, unattended, for extended periods of time, right? Like if you're going to the grocery store, church, the mall, etc, you're bringing your long gun with you and just leaving it in the vehicle? Or are you only loading up when going to get gas or on short trips where you won't be leaving the vehicle? It won't help in a carjacking or a drive-by. I'm trying to figure out the scenario where the risk/reward calculation makes sense.