124gr9mm

Stock, Scope, scope rings, and scope ring mounts all came in today The bolt action was delivered to my FFL, but I won't be able to get there until Tuesday!!!!! Hope to find time after work next week to get everything together and then hit the range to break it in. I'll order some ammo tonight as well.

Thanks Zeke. I frequently use blue, but I've never really looked into purple.

Thanks Bully. I already have a torque driver, but I'll definitely ask for help when I start to stumble. First stupid question actually. When I mount the scope rail mounts, do I use blue loktite to keep them in place, or do I just find the manufacturer specs and torque to that? Here's the stock I'm getting (in black) - http://www.bellandcarlson.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1078 I was VERY close to getting a KRG Bravo stock - https://kineticresearchgroup.com/product/bravo-chassis/ but they're $200 more than the B&C stock, AND I'll be sharing range time with my teenage daughter, so I want to make sure we both get proficient on a more traditional stock as we build fundamentals.

I've mentioned in a few threads that I've been considering buying a budget bolt gun for precision/distance shooting, but I was nervous about buying "cheap" used rifles and equipment without knowing much about their history. For regular plinking or fun at the range I wouldn't care so much, but it could get very frustrating very quickly if the rifle was the weak link instead of the shooter. With that in mind I decided that I'd put together a decent budget setup myself. This way I know the equipment is good, so the shooter has to work to make things accurate. Components are on order, but most are scheduled to arrive in the next week or so. So far l have coming: Howa 1500 short action with a 24" heavy barrel chambered in .308 (got a GREAT deal at Brownells when it was on sale+free shipping+coupon+gift card) Bell and Carlson Varmint/Tactical stock. It has full aluminum bedding and the Howa drops in. Primary Arms 4-14X44mm FFP scope. Yes, it's a $225 scope, but I'm on a budget and it's getting very good reviews from online reviewers who have been really good in the past. Scope mount and scope rings Inexpensive UTG bi-pod (I already have it) I reload so I'm considering adding a single stage press and dies, but I'll wait a bit to see how things go. I'd rather start with the basics and then ramp up as I get more interested That's it for now. I can post some pictures/observations as I go if anyone is interested.

Great points GRIZ. For the forseeable future the shooter (me) is going to be the biggest barrier to accuracy, not the rifle or ammunition. And honestly I'm not looking to be a match champion at 1000 yards I'll be VERY pleased if I'm a 1 MOA shooter 100 - 300 yards.

Thanks all. Forster looks awesome, but well over my budget. At this point I think a decent single stage (of any manufacturer) will serve my needs.

I'm in the process of building a .308 bolt rifle for bench/distance shooting and I'm considering picking up a single stage press for loading ammo. I currently use a Hornady Lock N Load progressive press for (lots of) handgun loading, but I've read that many people prefer a single stage press for rifle loads. Since I'll be shooting a bolt gun I won't be burning through tons and tons of rounds each time I get to the range, so I'm not too worried about the time it takes, but I don't want to invest a whole lot of money on another press if there's no need to. I've seen good prices on a Lyman Orange Crusher press, so I was thinking about picking that up and giving it a go. Any recommendations other than the Lyman? Thanks.

Annd I missed it. It was a Howa 1500 in a varmint stock of some kind for $400. New they're probably $550 so I'm not terribly upset.

Thanks all. Decisions, decisions...

It's a .308 barrel that appears to have been a closet queen, but not knowing the round count is the biggest factor in me not buying it right now. I haven't physically seen it yet, so we'll see what happens when I make a trip to the shop where it is.

What would you do in this scenario. You've been planning for some time to get a bolt gun to start some precision/distance shooting. You've done lots of research and narrowed your choices based on caliber, budget, etc, etc, to a point where you know what you're going to buy. You didn't plan on pulling the trigger on the purchase until late fall or winter, HOWEVER a lightly used version of the rifle you're planning to purchase shows up on the used market for about $200 less than what it would cost you to buy it new. It's not in the current budget plan and it's not a rare item that won't be available in 6 months, so there's no urgency, but SEEING it available is very tempting. What would you do???

Time and expense I suppose. Easier and cheaper to use one off the shelf than to change production stamping for a replacement/repair.

If it need a new serial number you'll need a p2p and NIC's, and it will have to be sent to a FFL. I sent a gun to a different manufacturer and the pistol was badly damaged so they sent me a brand new one for free. Since it had a different serial number it had to go the route I described above. S&W will definitely do the same if they give you a new serial number. Yay NJ...

Because they make it look so fun and easy!

Nice find. Seeing your post made me curious, so here's how to reload brass shotgun shells: You can buy a box of 25 for about $20, so I might give it a try just for the fun of it; https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/25-rds-magtech-loadable-brass-shotshells-12-gauge?a=518023

Thanks for sharing. That's a good price. I buy Nobelsport Minibuck when it goes on sale, but it's rarely under .50 per round.

I think most of the places around here say "no reloads", but I've yet to have anyone check. Yes, when i go to a public range I put my reloads in previously used factory ammo boxes, but i've still never been questioned...

Not sure about that GRIZ. The court already had a protection order in place that said he couldn't carry, so this ruling was made on a petition by the agents lawyer to have the protection order modified. Generally speaking I don't believe being an FBI agent insulates someone from rulings in criminal cases. I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong...

Was told by a judge that he's allowed to carry again while his criminal case is taking place: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44775118 Judge: FBI agent charged after backflip shooting can carry gun An FBI agent who is accused of accidentally shooting a man while performing a backflip in a bar can have his gun back, a judge has ruled. Chase Bishop, 29, was off-duty when he was filmed dropping his gun while dancing. As he picked it up he fired one shot, seriously wounding a man. Video of the 2 June incident in a Denver nightclub led to his arrest. On Tuesday a county judge in Colorado - where he is facing a second-degree assault charge - issued the ruling. During the court appearance in Denver Mr Bishop's protection order was amended to allow him to resume carrying his service pistol both while on and off duty... A lawyer for Mr Bishop told the judge that the man who was shot in the leg, Tim Reddington, 24, and his family did not object to the agent continuing to carry his gun. In an interview less than a month after the shooting, Mr Reddington, who had recently moved to Denver from Chicago, said he did not blame the agent. "I don't want to blame anybody, throw anybody under the truck," he told ABC's Good Morning America programme. Dancing FBI agent charged after shooting Mr Bishop's drug and blood alcohol tests, which will not be released, do not warrant any further charges, prosecutors told the Denver Post. Colorado law prohibits anyone from carrying a gun while under the influence of alcohol. Lawyers say that a plea deal is being negotiated to settle the assault charge, but did not disclose any details." Looks like it's being swept under the rug. I can only imagine if this was happening ot a regular citizen and not an FBI agent. I doubt anyone else would get away with the "Ooops" defense.

Sounds like fun

Crazy situation...

Indeed. While they certainly can sell online, it's reasonable to assume that NJ-based residents are their primary customers, so it will definitely be a pain to shift gears and sell online or in a different state (gun shows, etc).

An FFL's inventory is unsalable to NJ residents. Doesn't mean they can't sell them to people in states where 15 round magazines are legal.

I can't imagine anyone ever being prosecuted for that.

I don't think your ears would notice the difference between the 9mm and a .357 magnum: db Environmental noise 0 Threshold of hearing 10 Normal breathing 20 Rusting leaves 30 Whisper at 30 feet 40 Quiet street 50 Interior home noise … … 120 Threshold of pain 158 .38 Special revolver 159 .30-06 160 9mm Para pistol 163 .41 Magnum revolver 164 .357 Magnum revolver 164 .44 Magnum revolver https://www.m1911.org/loudness.htm