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It’s a “wee bit”. No more, no less. I think it's more like a "Smidge".

Agreed. But I think most of the confusion is law vs rights. The feds can pass any law they want to but the states don't have to comply. Examples?: Marijuana laws. While many states continue to legalize it it still against federal law. Gay marriage: many states refuse to honor it law or no law. It wasn't until the Supreme Court declared it a right was it forced to be recognized everywhere. Sanctuary cities: Well we all know that one. They blatantly defy federal laws daily. Abortion: Used to be one had to travel to a state that allowed it until a woman's right to chose was declared a constitutional right. When and only when it becomes a right as defined by the US Supreme Court will the states, unwillingly so, stop the injunctions, law suits and all the other nuisances blocking our way.

Zoned or no zoned they need the locals approval for an FFL. Doing transfers will also mean that the guns will have to arrive at your house and the customer will have to come and get them. That would constitute retail. See what JT's input is. He may have a loop hole.

As a planning Board member and former councilman in my town I can tell you that many municipalities passed "cottage industry" ordinances. Allowing small businesses that work out of the house to be allowed in a residential zone. If zoning knows any sales (if any) will be drop ship and/or internet you could be allowed, thereby be permitted to hold an FFL at your address.

You can only buy a long gun from an out of state dealer. A shockwave does not have a stock, hence not a long gun. PK has it. Sort of - one FFL gave me the paper work to read. Depending on the interpretation (of course). PA considers it so, but they claim NJ does not yet. Either way no PA buy. FFL fees and NICS fees (Cabelas and my FFL) make it counter productive. I guess a trip to Oak Ridge in in order.

Well, 3 FFLs at the show and Cabelas said no yesterday to a Jersey sale of the shockwave.

Yes, maybe they should have. And yes, it could be a separate thread. But in the spirit of this thread I was pointing out how they seem to take the safe stuff and cater to the big guys. With all the talk, campaigning, calling and writing we and everyone else is doing. What are the priorities with these people empowered? That's all. Maybe I'm too worked up to properly be on a soap box.

Tomorrow the Supreme Court hears argument for nation wide sports betting. Really? Lets pass another addiction that causes people to commit crimes on citizens that don't have the right to protect themselves properly before we look at carry laws. Why? 4.5 billion wagered on sports betting each year. That's why. Big business and big money. That's why. What are they going to bet on? Who's going to kneel and who isn't? Your tax dollars at work.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.medicaldaily.com/erogenous-zones-nerve-endings-sex-play-electrical-currents-392564%3famp=1 Not really worried unless she got one and I found the receipt for the lube she also bought on YouTube. Then......

Yes. I was hoping to burn the points on a pistol once the permits came through. But plans change. DE doesn't have sales tax as well as cheaper. But being all the way out in Allentown puts me only 30 mins from Hamburg. Gas and tolls it works out better for tomorrow's big adventure.

Alright. This is all good stuff. I’m going out to the gun show in Allentown tomorrow and I think I’ll shoot out to get a shotgun. I’ve got $145.00 in points to use before 1/16. And I have zero faith that NJSP will come across with my P2Ps in time.

I have Cabelas points to burn. Can I walk out with a long gun in the Cabelas PA? Or will they insist on the FFL thing to my home sate?

Correct me if I'm wrong but to go through Brownell's, won't it have to land at an FFL in NJ anyway? And if so aren't you then also paying their fee plus NICS? All this instead of running up to Oak Ridge?

Not bad pricing. So what are we looking at? Maybe 8-11 months if the weather is good?

Just sent mine.

NJSP does. Each time. I can use the same people each time and they give me the letters to send to the references and the references send them directly back to NJSP.

At 12 o'clock my newest baby a 1965 Ruger .357 3 screw without the recall repair. I only fired it once. I don't want to spoil it but it's a sweet shoot. At 3 o'clock my newest purchase a GP100 4inch. Although if you ask the boss lady she says it's her's. At 6 o'clock my most fired revolver a .357 Security 6. I believe it's model year is 1983. At 9 O'clock an inherited black powder Army Model 44cal from Navy Arms Co. Ridgefield, NJ. 1971 manufacturer date. Never fired and so far I've respected that. It's getting harder though. 3 o'clock and 6 o'clock are waiting for Santa to bring them new grips.

And its the context that points me that way. Informed? Yes. Educated? Sounds it. But definitely condescending.

He's on a soap box trying to get a following. Don't drink the cool aid.

I had a Cabela’s in Maine refuse me ammo because I had Jersey ID. And that was 3 years ago. I had to leave. Get lunch and come back to a different cashier and it worked. My point is they can work it out if they want to be pricks.

Amen

See? Ya gotta watch that fake news.

Yes, FFLs will like this. Prices will go up. Our buck tooth governor will be able to collect the sales tax. Maybe additional taxes someday like cigarettes, alcohol and fuel have. Could lead to limiting quantities and logging who bought what and how much. Pawn shops keep a detailed log as to who pawned what and when that goes into a master data base for cops to see. Why not FFLs with ammo? A lot of petty shit like that could come into play. Where are the internet giants that are always claiming free commerce to ship their porn and sex toys at? Where is Fedex and UPS at? Revenues lost, FTC rights infringed.

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