BobA

I just sent the email below to Brent Johnson. He is the author of the article on NJ.com announcing the buy back program. Let's see. Dear Mr. Johnson, Some individuals and myself have been unsuccessful in trying to find an answer to our question regarding the up coming Gun Turn in event. I'm hoping considering the involvement you have had with the authorities relating to your article you may have more luck finding these answers than we have had. According to the current NJ gun laws (pasted below) B.B. guns are covered as a "firearm". In NJ one cannot purchase a B.B. gun without a Firearms Identification Card. We're curious if this qualifies them for the gun turn in. “ f. "Firearm" means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid project-able ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person. ” If it is possible for you to get this answer it would be much appreciated. I assume that the NJSP would also appreciate for this information to be cleared up rather than take up their time dealing with the people hoping to turn these in. Thank you,

They don't charge them for the use of space.

Believe me NJ will pull every weasel card out of their deck to stop, complex or otherwise gum up any movement to carry in any way, fashion or form. Their probably already working on it.

I did just that. It's next to impossible to get individual email addresses however so I sent it to a general address to the Superintendent I found on the main site. I can only assume it'll work its way down to the proper people. I want to add that of all that was shown to me it was clear that the reason for my delay was that the barracks I'm forced to work with did not pick up their mail for several weeks. I had politicians and the Attorney General in on this. It was when I re-called the Sargent in Trenton that helped me and told him that The Barracks said he was wrong and picked up their mail nightly that he got pissed enough to call them and got it straight for me. I then got it 4 days later. I'm convinced that no political pressure can motivate any of these people as they are too insulated from consequences to care. In my case they manged to anger one of their own and in this case one with juice. I can only imagine what will happen for my next go around after embarrassing and angering the people I did. We'll see.... For all of the time and expense involved, and in this I includes time lost from work, I think this process should be removed from the individual barrack's hands and be done at a separate station of some sort set up for just this. NJ is a large state in population but not in square miles. One could be almost anywhere in circa 90 minutes. I would be willing to travel to a point where this could be arraigned just to knock it out. After all we do it for finger prints. Just a thought.....

Unfortunately I can't get into the details but definitely call. Be polite and not demanding and make like you're only looking for an update - not results. i found them more than a little helpful, polite, respectful and informative. The person I spoke with was more than a little helpful with info and advice. Good Luck. Oh, BTY his advice worked and I got my permits yesterday after calling last Thursday.

This will further clog the system making our 30 day period go from 6 months to - who knows?

Sure. You never heard of "shoe rage"?

I'd like to point out that on the NJSP web site it says we can go to the nearest barracks. I did this for my FID and the barracks I picked were friendly,respectful and delivered inside of 6 weeks. Now no one will take you except the barracks that serves your area regardless of what the site says.

I emailed the individual at the barracks responsible (she a civilian). I explained what I had learned from Trenton and explained I would be willing to pick up their mail if they couldn't. Not sure what points I earned there but I couldn't resist the sarcasm. I've started steps toward correcting this for myself. Since we don't really know who's reading these forums I can't go into it now. Hopefully you can read between the lines. Wish me luck.

Just hung up with Trenton. It was signed on 6/20 and awaiting for Kingswood barracks to pick up their mail. Bullshit huh?

Thanks. Having the same issue. Will call tomorrow.

Which extension was it?

It would be cool and close but they're not accepting applications and haven't been for a year.

Yes. I too found they did not have a range. It seems it a social club for hunters. Pity.

I saw that page. Not very informative. I found them on another chat room for hunters. In January they were voting to lift that restriction to gain more members. Yes, Tuesday appears to be their annual open enrollment. I hope to get time today to call them. And I hope they have a range. Looking hard for an outdoor range closer to home for me.

I did today at about 6:00. No answer or voicemail. That's why I started the thread. I plan on trying during business hours tomorrow. I think Fishnut is correct. On Google Earth I couldn't see any ranges. I'll post what I know then.

Does anyone have any knowledge to share about the Croton Gun Club? Reviews, costs, what the ranges are like, hours, etc? Thanks.

Yes. That would be a way to go. Now if I could just win the lottery I could afford to do it.

https://njgunpermitattorney.com/carry-permits/

Exactly.

Does anyone?

Kingswood Barracks - 3 months and counting.

It might be possible the opposite could happen with a mass application movement. It would hit the media and the Libs would panic. Does anyone actually know of anyone personally that was denied due to a prior denial?

Back ground checks for Avocado owners? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bizarre-avocado-assault-breaks-store-clerks-jaw_us_59413609e4b003d5948c5c21