Spawne32

Yes, you do want "FDA BASED RESULTS" because you don't want to be pumped up full of hydroxychloroquine and have adverse effects that destroy other parts of your body. Not that you'll listen to me apparently, but I know from first hand experience of being an unwilling participant to a doctors "trial study" of a drug before, being one of the few cases that had severe adverse reactions. The only thing I ever ask of people when they come up with these theories that contradict the professionals is to provide some sort of evidence to their claim, and they never can. The guy is almost 80 years old, he's dedicated his entire life to medicine and saving lives, and it shocks me that people so desperately try to come up with something to make him the enemy with not a single shred of evidence other than shouting words. You won't catch me pumping myself up with hydroxychloroquine, no sir. I'll go with Fauci on this one, the evidence presented so far is not worth the risk. I read medical journals and case studies before taking a new med that I am unfamiliar with even in my routine travels to my own doctors.

Uh, that's a way more complicated answer than just setting a specific number. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6548115/ This is crack pot stuff your talking here. This is like going to the doctor for treatment of an illness, and arguing with him saying "I don't know what your end game is here doc, but I know your up to something." Fauci isn't up to anything except doing his job, which is trying to mitigate a pandemic crisis. Pouring billions into vaccination of a virus isn't a conspiracy theory, I agree. It's science. I haven't been alive long enough to know what it was like when the vaccination for Polio came about, but I am sure similar conspiracy theories about it being a government plot were around. The internet just has a habit of spreading this stuff like wildfire. Like it was said a few days ago, the Z-pack is being given to treat secondary illnesses that develop as a result of the virus, it doesn't treat the virus. It's like preventing an infection when you get a cut.

I'm not sure your meaning? All I'm asking for is what data shows this and where people are coming up with this idea that Fauci is hiding it?

What "data" overwhelmingly supports its effectiveness? The only data I have seen overwhelmingly doesn't support it and is totally inconclusive. You can't test 28 people and suddenly claim its a miracle drug. Where do these conspiracy theories come from that Fauci is pro-vaccination because hes in bed with big pharma?

Feel bad for you guys in Bergen. Were not that bad yet that im afraid to go outside. Doesn't look like that malaria drug will be any help either. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/491008-fauci-warns-theres-no-strong-evidence-anti-malaria-drug-works-on-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR14H7udg2gWaH_mUDQu-LIxTEgOODf7aDMYAZQ5g-IhWb5YOoCGDA85gJQ

I watch louis rossmann on youtube from time to time. It's incredible to hear some of the first hand accounts of what small businesses are going through to try to get help at all. These two are good to watch.

I uh...ive had that done before to remove a stent in my bladder. They use a metal rod with grabby hooks on the end. I don't think ive ever wept so much in my life. lol It's getting crazy out there, just saw this on the news. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-president-coronavirus-lockdown-shoot-people-dead/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=85694697&fbclid=IwAR09PGL52YAPrbt_yOsY3BiX6tQvRrr9eLSpaVE5jehuxMfHqi2ZHY1LvMY

I like to use this picture to put things into perspective, usually this is enough to scare people to stay home and you don't even need the fear of the virus. Let's let our friend Samuel Jackson give everyone advice on what to do.

Any recommendations on a particular store I should purchase at?

Hope you don't mind me bumping this thread because I've been exploring these since I found out they were actually legal. My brother swears no one will sell one of these in NJ but you guys have proven otherwise. I looked up the Dark Storm DS-15 Non-NFA Firearm Typhoon, which appears to be listed NJ legal, and I also saw the TROY 10″ A4 Pistol with SBA3 Brace. Is the Troy also NJ legal? Is anyone actually carrying these in south jersey? I feel like if I ordered one of these not to many FFL's would be comfortable selling this.

Thank you for beating me to the punch with this. As someone who is immuno-compromised himself, I know all too well the risks of secondary bacterial infection. People don't realize what this virus actually does. It causes your immune system to literally destroy your lungs as it attacks the virus where it resides (so far as it has been explained to me). When that happen it exposes you to infection from a whole host of other bacteria that are just naturally present around us that our nasal passages and lungs would otherwise filter out to various means or your immune system could deal with on a normal basis. Without an effective anti-viral agent, the best you can do is treat the symptoms and prevent secondary infection while your body deals with the virus. For some its worse than others, especially people who are older or already prone to illness. But people tend to attribute this virus to only affecting the elderly, which is a really bad philosophy to have. How many Americans are obese and can't get up a flight of steps without breathing heavy, how many are smokers or vapers? How many with high blood pressure or underlying heart disease? Those people may not realize it but they are high risk as well. Ultimately the real problem I think is people being stupid. Were going on what now? 2 weeks of this "stay at home" order? People are already tired of it. I see roads down here in SJ that are packed with traffic. My buddy lives down near the shore and said he see's a ton of traffic with people trying to go to beaches or elsewhere. I get it, its inconvenient, annoying and for some problematic. But if you care about anyone other then yourself, or even if you only care about yourself, heed the warnings, stay home as much as possible. Don't wind up being a statistic. If people don't make the problem worse, I don't think the fear monger scenario I spoke of will even come close to playing out. But in case people don't want to take it seriously, just have a look at some of the latest CDC statistics. https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections I was kind of surprised to see Trump visibly shaken at the press conference this afternoon over the reality of the situation. He mentioned how people kept calling it the flu, or just like the flu, and how people think its just over reaction, and I was surprised to hear him openly admit, this isn't the flu or anything like it, and emphasize the seriousness of it.

Well my hope is that we get this straightened out over the next few weeks, im going stir crazy sitting in the house. lol

I give Murphy some credit, I think hes handling this well. Don't agree with any of his other policies but he is taking the situation seriously and doing what needs to be done to keep people alive. What scares me is the staggering number of police officers, EMS and firefighters that have either contracted this disease or are in self quarantine. I have heard numbers as high as 5000 in NYC and over 2400 in NJ that are either infected or suspected to be infected and have to be taken off duty. People have looted and rioted in catastrophes that have lasted only days, imagine what would happen if this lasted into the summer. I think your talking complete social and economic breakdown in some parts. What happens next if it does get that far? Marshal law? Suspending peoples civil rights to protect areas? What would that even look like? I've heard of 3 leaders in other countries, Russia, China and Hungary that have made emergency declarations open ended and suspended elections as a result. Effectively making themselves indefinite rulers. Could that happen here? So many scary unanswered questions.

I assume thats all tacked onto the final price as well? Good idea, ill contact Springfield and see what they say.

Looks like all of them have the A2 Flash Hider. Wonder if they can be ordered without that?

Looking to purchase my first AR here, and I know the restrictions are pretty intense. Pretty familiar with some of the rules regarding them as my brother purchased his first one about 10 years ago from Bushmaster. Wasn't a fan of it as he wound up having to send it back for repair because it kept having issues with cycling rounds, fortunately Bushmaster was good about covering it under warranty. Since all the gun shops are closed due to the ronavirus, I can't get my questions answered by just moseying on down to the store and shopping around. I've had my eye on the SAINT lineup from Springfield for quite a while now, and they allow you to filter by "State Compliant" on the website. However they don't seem to specify which state they are compliant with. I am aware that you need to have a fixed stock, and no more than a 10 rnd magazine and I believe they cannot be any less than an overall length of 26". So my question to the would be experts is... would the "State Compliant" AR Pistol (Model ST9096556BMLC) or the M-LOK® AR-15 RIFLE, PIC GAS BLOCK, LOW CAPACITY (Model ST916556BMLC) be legal to purchase in NJ? And would you have any other recommendations as to where I should look? MSRP's on these range from $850 to $1000 which is where i'd like to be price wise.

Ah didn't even see that. I've been looking at purchasing something in the SAINT lineup.

I was just about to start asking if AR pistols were legal because I was looking at this EXACT model. I guess this answers my question! lol How do you like it? It looks like a blast to shoot.

Not trying to make the numbers work out at all, I can handle a 12 gauge or a handgun myself, but my 60 something year old mother cannot. The shockwave worked out nicely for her because it was easy for her to handle and easy for her to understand. My real question was whether or not its going to be effective as a defense round should someone break into the house. The way people treat this round is as if its going to bounce off the intended target like a bb gun should they be anything but bare naked when your taking the shot. But I found my answers to my question here.

On the SuperX that winchester sells, it still shows a 1300-1130fps, depending on the round size, 2 1/2 and 3" muzzle velocity, is it just the kinetic power that is lessened by using the .410 bore? Least that's the way I would think it would work. The 3" SuperX rounds are 5 #000 loaded into that shell, where a comparable #12 gauge, with 8 or 10 pellets, also does similar fps. I would think the stopping power would be largely similar, would it not?

Yah, ill post up some pictures of the patterns next time im at the range with the PDX and SuperX rounds, I am curious. I have seen it fired with the judge as well, but because the judge has such a short barrel, it didn't seem to be very effective. The longer barrel of the shockwave I have heard makes .410 a much more viable round for home defense, so I am told by the experts.

Well I spoke about this topic with the guy's at the local gun shop when trying to choose which particular shockwave would be the best choice for a home defense weapon absent a handgun, that would work well for an older woman who was by herself. The thing I felt was nice about it was that Winchester makes what seems to be some decent rounds for it. They have 3" .410 shells in Super X that are 5 #000 at 1130fps and PDX Defender at 750fps, which I still think is plenty lethal to most intruders. I'm curious how they actually pattern at 5-10 yards through the shockwave.

Well considering it was purchased primarily for a lady in mind, do you know any lady's gun accessories sites I could browse?

I still fail to see why people think .410 won't kill an intruder in a home defense situation. I'd rather have more precise control and less recoil jumping up out of my sleep at 2am then be blowing holes in walls and shooting my neighbors because im too groggy to hold a hand cannon. lol I think it's a neat round, just wish it had more options.

I picked up one of these in .410 bore the other day, but apparently the grips and receiver are slightly different so the accessories don't quite match up. I wanted a crimson trace laser saddle and a custom grip, however none of them seem to be compatible unfortunately. Anyone accessorize a .410 version yet?