Sniper

Real simple:

Right, because turban head is reading every word posted here... Geez.....

I'm posting this as a separate thread, since it has important ramifications and goes into effect this Sunday, 9/1. This new law can really cause some issues, biggest one, there is no due process. Your firearms are removed, then you have to fight to get them back. I think it will also be abused, BIG TIME. Have a fight with a girlfriend, she calls the authorities. Also, based on the emotion level today with guns, and this state's MAJOR Liberal lean, it won't take much arm twisting to get a Liberal judge to approve the seizure. My suggestion, all you guys keep your mouths closed when talking to people about what's in your safe!!! I'm going to post the whole article, since some of you don't subscribe to the APP: ----------------------------------- Starting Sunday, family members and authorities in New Jersey will be able to use a new law to seek a court order to strip firearms from those considered dangerous — legislation decried by gun rights groups as an end run around the Constitution. Even as New Jersey joins the growing list of states with a so-called red-flag law, questions remain about whether it will help prevent gun violence. While some studies found that suicide rates dropped in states with red-flag laws, determining whether they can reduce homicides — and mass shootings in particular — is harder to do, experts said. “Mass shootings are a rare event,” said Warren Eller, associate professor and chairman of the Department of Public Management at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan. “Because that’s the case, it makes it incredibly difficult to say what’s actually going to have an effect, and even to test what that effect would be with any certainty.” Despite this, 17 states and the District of Columbia now allow for some version of the law, which in New Jersey will let judges issue an “extreme risk protection order” that gives authorities the green light to take an individual’s weapons. The public overwhelmingly supports the measures, according to a July survey by the American Public Media Research Lab. More than three-quarters of those polled favor allowing families to seek an order, and about 70 percent support allowing police the option. But it is not without detractors. The National Rifle Association often decries the laws as confiscation schemes that violate the right to due process. Yet the survey found that most gun owners support them — 60 percent back police-initiated orders, and 67 percent support family-initiated orders. It remains unclear whether a federal red-flag law will gain traction. Though the survey showed bipartisan support from the public, politicians in Washington have been unable to come to terms. Last year, courts across the nation issued more than 1,700 orders under red-flag laws allowing authorities to seize weapons for up to a year. The actual figure may be higher, as California was not included in the data. In a statement earlier this month, state Attorney General Gurbir Grewal commended the law, which goes into effect Sept. 1. "New Jersey is leading the way in taking commonsense action to protect our residents and law enforcement officers from the daily scourge of gun violence," Grewal said. Previously, police could not file their own petition, Grewal’s office said. And families could do it only after an act of domestic violence. That's not the case under the new law: Family, household members or cops can now request an order before a crime occurs. However, the petition must show that the respondent "poses an immediate and present danger of bodily injury to self or others by possessing, purchasing, owning or receiving a firearm," according to an attorney general directive. The judge will then consider the respondent's legal history, arrest record and previous convictions, among other things. Once the order is granted, the judge can issue a search warrant that lets authorities seize the respondent's firearms and ammunition, as well as the person's firearms purchaser identification card, permit to purchase a handgun and permit to carry a handgun, if there is one. The state Superior Court then schedules a final hearing within 10 days, at which point a judge can permanently bar the respondent from owning, handling or buying firearms, according to the law. That order lasts until a judge cancels it, which would follow another hearing in which the respondent must prove not to be a threat. Authorities can charge those who break any provision with a fourth-degree crime. The directive also details an appeal process and lays out how and when officers and prosecutors should file for an order. Despite the high legal bar, gun rights groups are crying foul. “This is classic Orwell — people are charged and convicted of something based on nothing more than an accusation,” said Alexander Roubian, president of the New Jersey Second Amendment Society. "You don't have the right and the ability to defend yourself ... before your firearms are taken away from you." An NRA spokesman echoed this, writing in an email that red-flag laws should, at a minimum, include criminal penalties for those who make frivolous claims, require mental health treatment for respondents and protect their right to due process. The New Jersey law does not require treatment or explicitly mention penalties, a spokesman for the attorney general said. But the petitioner's affidavit will be sworn under oath, making the petitioner subject to punishment if statements are willfully false, according to a court directive. Due process is a concern, said Michael K. Gusmano, an associate professor and outreach director for the Gun Violence Research Center at Rutgers University. That's why it's important that the state train police, prosecutors and the courts appropriately. "You're talking about having the state come in and remove, in most instances, a legally purchased gun," Gusmano said. "But the claim that these laws do not involve due process because the person has not already been convicted of a crime does not make any sense ... the whole premise behind these are that you're trying to be preemptive." Others worry about false accusations, which could strip weapons from innocent people. "It does happen," said Paramus Police Chief Ken Ehrenberg. "We must make sure that the seizures are for a legitimate reason and the law doesn't get abused." Still, he said, the law will give his officers another way to keep firearms out of the wrong hands. Bergen County Sheriff Anthony Cureton, a Democrat in his first term, added that he thinks the law is "more than appropriate." "If someone has a gun in their household and they're not stable, we need the opportunity to take the gun out of somebody's hand," Cureton said. "It's about safety first." https://www.app.com/story/news/new-jersey/2019/08/30/njs-red-flag-law-takes-effect-sunday-prevent-gun-violence/2085387001/

Me too, he probably had some plumbing parts laying around from repairing some pipes in the house. Here's more to the story: ..." Police first received a report of a suicidal man inside a home on the 9700 block of Northeast Avenue shortly before 4:30 p.m. When officers arrived they were met by family members of the 72-year-old homeowner. They told police the man was suicidal and had several loaded weapons inside the house, investigators said. " OK, if he was really suicidal and had that many guns laying around, wouldn't he have already shot himself??? ...." “We found guns, or at least a gun, in every single room in the house,” Philadelphia Police Chief Inspector Scott Small said. “Some are hidden under furniture. Some are in drawers. Some are in cabinets. Many of them are in closets. Many were in the basement. This was really unusual.” Then further down, we learn this: ...." The man, who police believe left a suicide note, was safely removed from the home and taken to the hospital for a mental evaluation. " They "believe"???? Is determining if a note was written or not that tough to figure out???? Then we find out exactly WHY he had all these firearms: ...."Police spent hours searching through the house and removing weapons. After speaking with family members and further investigation, officials determined the man collects World War II memorabilia and has been involved in selling gun accessories at gun shows. "It's not illegal to possess that many firearms," Philadelphia Police Lt. Dennis Rosenbaum said. "There's no restriction. You can own hundreds of firearms, the way the laws are now here in Pennsylvania. He doesn't use them against anybody he's just an avid collector, slash at one point he might've been in the gun show trade." So, he was 100% legal with what he was doing and had a business selling and buying firearms... Which family member is a Flaming, gun hating Liberal?? And, looks like he probably won't be seeing those firearms again: ...." Small told NBC10 the weapons will be transported to the Firearms Identification Unit where they’ll be held for storage. Police said the man could petition to get his weapons back once he's fully evaluated and released from the hospital. " https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Guns-Grenades-Ammunition-Suicidal-Man-Philadelphia-Home-558638101.html

Attention Everyone!! This NEW law goes in effect THIS Sunday. Were you all aware of that? ......"A significant new gun control law will take effect in New Jersey on Sunday, allowing you to ask a judge to bar a family member or loved one who is deemed to be mentally unstable and a threat from buying or possessing a gun. Here’s what you need to know:" You ALL need to go to that link, NOW, and read this law so you understand what's in it, since it was passed before it was read.

I think these types of reports will continue to rise, as more people try to take advantage of the emotional state of gun ownership in the country. It's time to be aware on who you tell what you own, so it doesn't come back to bite you in the ass. I wonder what type of internal "beef" the family members were having with this dude? PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) -- An investigation is underway in the Bustleton section of Philadelphia after police found a large cache of weaponry inside a home. According to investigators, officers encountered a 72-year-old man whom relatives expressed concern that he may be depressed or suicidal. The man was taken to the hospital for evaluation. Relatives said the man used to be a gun dealer. Police say family members authorized them to enter the home, and upon entering they found more than 50 guns, hundreds of rounds of ammo, 10 hand grenades, a pipe bomb and liquid mercury. The grenades are believed to be inert. https://6abc.com/philadelphia-police-find-over-50-guns-grenades-pipe-bomb-inside-home/5499831/

Hmmm, two cameras focused on Epstein's cell that day both malfunctioned and videos were "unusable"... what are the odds??? ...."(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters. Epstein’s lawyers Reid Weingarten and Martin Weinberg told U.S. District Judge Richard Berman in Manhattan on Tuesday they had doubts about the New York City chief medical examiner’s conclusion that their client killed himself. The two cameras were within view of the Manhattan jail cell where he was found dead on Aug. 10. A source earlier told Reuters two jail guards failed to follow a procedure overnight to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes. The cameras were sent to Quantico, Virginia, site of a major FBI crime lab where agents and forensic scientists analyze evidence. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jeffrey-epstein-cameras/fbi-studies-two-broken-cameras-outside-cell-where-epstein-died-source-idUSKCN1VI2LC Gee, I wonder what the FBI will find out about those cameras???

Me too... I'm moving to where he is at 40%.

Your boy, Phil, isn't trying hard enough. NJ is only 4th highest in fuel taxes in the country. Give him a call and tell him to try harder to become Number one!

Probably so... it's a really deep hole they've dug: ....."The comments underscore the persistent fiscal pressure on New Jersey, a high-tax state contending with massive debts to employee pension funds after years of failing to set aside enough to cover the $212 billion of benefits that have been promised. New Jersey’s retirement system had about $82 billion of assets in 2018, only 38% of what it needs to cover checks that are owed in the decades ahead. That’s lower than any other state system in the U.S., according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The state’s obligation for retirees’ health care benefits adds another $90.5 billion." https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-28/n-j-is-in-worse-shape-than-any-other-state-senate-chief-says

It's going to illegal immigrants to pay for their college... Murphy is going to need a bit more from you! NJ gave more than $3.8 million in financial aid to undocumented college students last year New Jersey has awarded more than $3.8 million in college aid to immigrants living in the country illegally under the first year of a program authorizing the grants, a new report says. The figure was reported Monday by the North Jersey Record. It said 749 students had received the aid in the fall and spring semesters of the 2018-2019 school year — mostly through the New Jersey Tuition Aid Grant program. The report also said Rutgers students received the most aid — $1.3 million. https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2019/08/19/nj-awarded-3-8-million-financial-aid-undocumented-college-students/2049343001/ This is a priority, you know, NOT pensions!

Note, this is coming from Sweeney, not some low level lacky... I hope you guys don't have your retirement plans tied to a State paid pension.... Do you have a Plan B? "We are in worse shape than Illinois," Sweeney said. "We are not investing in education, we are not investing in the areas that we want because all the money is going to pensions and health care." However, according to New Jersey’s Senate president, conventional wisdom is wrong. In an interview with Bloomberg, Senator Stephen Sweeney, a Democrat, said that that credit-rating companies may be underestimating the severity of the state’s financial strains by giving it the second-lowest grade after Illinois. "Why am I yelling fire in a crowded theater and everyone else is saying that we’re fine,” Sweeney said. “We’re not. And it’s going to go up in flames. I would rather not go down in memory as the guy that told everyone the pension system was going to collapse and be found that I was correct." Well, maybe Sweeney won't be "that" guy, but someone else will unfortunately have to deliver the very bad news to what will soon be a lot of furious retirees who learn that their retirement eggs has been suddenly cut in half... or worse. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-28/we-are-going-flames-new-jersey-worse-shape-any-other-state-senate-president-admits

What if he doesn't like crock pot ribs?

Well, you could also say that if your job is a telemarketer... isn't that already miserable, even before the first call?

Apples to hammers. When was the last time someone died because of a parallel parking mistake? Do parallel parkers travel at 3300 feet per second EVERY time? It's a good thing his wife is an attorney, he'll need her to defend him and get him out of jail when he kills or injures someone.

Apparently, she's been misled by her friends in the Liberal media, thinking she could just wander into Walmart, plink down her credit card, and walk out with a rifle. She found out, that "expanded" background checks, that ALL the Dems are screaming for, are SOP now.

What does technology have to do with the will of the voting public. Talk about a stupid comment.

You providing these to everyone in your near vicinity?

A reporter, based on the blame handed out to Walmart recently, decided to play a "gotcha" and show how easy it is to buy a gun from Walmart in Virginia. What she actually got was a factual, real world experience with background checks. I think she also just learned how much the Liberal media has been lying to her and the country about "easy" purchase of guns. I tried to buy a gun at Walmart twice, and roadblocks left me empty-handed both times ......"I went to Walmart with the intention of buying a gun last week as part of an investigation into the placement, selection, marketing, and security of firearms in Walmart's stores, and to learn more about the retailer's processes governing gun sales. My journey to bring a gun home from Walmart turned out to be far more complicated than I expected. But I had only just finished printing my name when she stopped me and asked whether the address on my license matched my home address. I had moved since I obtained my license, and the addresses didn't match. That was a problem, she said. To pass the background check, I would need to bring in a government-issued document with my correct address, such as a bill from a state-owned utility or a car registration. (I have never bought a gun, so I wasn't aware of this.) She apologized, told me the rules were strict around background checks, and asked me to come back another time to finish the purchase. snip.... Overall, the experience left me with the impression that buying a gun at Walmart is more complicated than I expected, and that Walmart takes gun sales and security pretty seriously. https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-gun-buying-review-virginia-store-2019-8#i-left-the-store-empty-handed-again-12 What's the chance this story makes it into the MSM??? I know, slim and none....

How many did it take to get Dick's to cave in? It shows there are 129,000 mentally ill people who think Walmart is actually responsible for mass shootings.. I wonder if these same people blame Ford or Chevy for DWI killings?

So, will Walmart roll over to political pressure, like Dick's did, and stop selling guns? Or will they support the constitution? Place your bets!! ......"That’s 23-year-old Walmart category specialist Thomas Marshall urging CEO Doug McMillon to take stricter measures aimed at curbing gun violence in the wake of recent mass shootings, according to the Washington Post. Marshall, in a letter accompanying a petition signed by more than 129,000 employees and customers, is calling for Walmart to stop all sales of firearms and ammunition, ban the public from carrying guns into its stores and cease all donations to politicians backed by the National Rifle Association. The movement to ban firearms at Walmart, which sells guns in about half of its 4,750 stores across the country, has also gained momentum on social media under the #WalmartMustAct hashtag." https://www.marketwatch.com/story/customers-no-longer-feel-as-safe-petition-to-ban-gun-sales-at-walmart-tops-129000-signatures-lands-on-ceos-desk-2019-08-21

Then what the heck are you doing wasting your time posting on the forum? Get building.... You'll be RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, according to the FBI chart below, those items are more deadly than AR15s..... just sayin...