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And, you'll go to jail if you have more than 10 on a roll.

Hope everyone has a safe and happy Independence Day. Remember what today stands for. It's not about the Burgers and the Beer. Think back over 240 years ago to what was involved to claim our Independence... we might have to do it again.... soon... just from a different group...

Crap. me too, I've used them all... What do we win?

You forgot, or stable...

So, once again, you go off into the weeds, and claim I said these comment above. Maybe, instead of making crap up, go back and read what I initially posted. Here, I'll help with your memory: So, show me in my post where it says "everyone", or where I say charge them without due process. What do you think "proven after a mass shooting" means?? Lock up anyone who has ever associated with the shooter without any evidence? And I've seen some just make up stuff to fill in their own blanks or preconceived perception to fit their narrative, and not using reading comprehension. You (and a few others here) go off half cocked about "Due Process" and didn't even read what I posted. Once again, one of you please quote where I said there should not be any due process and I felt that these accessories should just be locked up.

Have you read any of the back stories or history on any of these shooter and seen what type of activities, postings, behaviors, associated groups, comments by friends/family, etc. were reported? I have. In many cases, there were multiple incidents of questionable behavior or threats before they actually committed these acts. You somehow want a black/white answer or a either/or answer, when in reality, there were many shades of grey that people close to these shooters let slip by. Is that what I said, please quote it. Thanks for that newsflash.... Yep, somehow in Griz's vast legal experiences, he's never seen someone arrested/charged for involvement or knowledge that a crime is or was committed. Apparently he's never seen a family member, spouse, girlfriend, general friend charged as an accessory to a crime during an investigation. So, to him, apparently there is never another person with any idea that these shooters are unstable, capable or showing any tendencies to violence. and then YOU go throw out an insult... maybe practice what you preach. Few is not none. So, at least you admit someone else can be charged for another person's actions... took long enough.. and we certainly weren't discussing cars... that's comparing apples to hammers in the conversation.

Go and quote where I said there shouldn't be due process instead of doing your normal spinning. Once again, the voices in your head are seeing something different. Go back up and read the the title of the thread. It references Mass Shooters. That is a isolated incident and my comments are based on the facts and data from past similar incidents. Somehow, you want to lump some "Red Flag" general BS into your spin. This is a completely different issue. Tell those voices in your head to shut up. Once again, that's my point. Others around like let him off the hook. If that person stepped up and pressed charges, he would have had to answer to his actions and had his due process. But, they just let it slide, and instead of him being convicted of a crime, he went on to kill a bunch of kids... Allowing that is a form of "enabling".. Really??? What planet do you live on? Ever hear of parents being held liable for the actions of their kids?

Maybe before spewing, you should do some research and see if my thought fits any past shooters. Here. I'll give you one example, the Parkland shooter, Nikolas Cruz.... go research and see if anyone around him could have been considered an accessory or contributed to allowing his irrational behavior (mother, school system, law enforcement). For example, him pointing a gun at a friend's head and posting it on social media. No crime committed there, right? Yeah, just supporting some unfounded Red Flag laws, right?

Is someone desperate to sell more product?

You can thank your "Blue Team" friends in Trenton for that!! Yet, after all that ranting, you STILL vote Democrat!! Truly can't fix stupid!!

I saw that, they said the numbers weren't as good as a decade ago, but based on their report, the numbers, on average, are still higher than Toyota. The reason I brought up the Ridgeline was, when I was looking, I was leaning towards a SUV too. But when I thought about it more, there are occasions that I need to carry/move something big, that wouldn't fit in the back of a SUV. So, when I went looking, the Ridgeline offered a nice upgraded cockpit, comfortably carried 5 people like a SUV, had decent options, rode like a SUV and not a truck, towed my boat, flipped up the rear seat so poochie can jump in, AND gave me the option to carry big crap in the back and trunk.... Oh, and it is a Honda, which generally is a decent vehicle, and it's priced right. So, don't automatically discard a "pickup" for a "SUV" without thinking through all the possibilities and what you need a vehicle to do. I found the overall utility aspect of this vehicle amazing, being a SUV/pickup hybrid. Incidentally, I've had this truck over 5 years and have had ZERO problems with it. Only thing was the air bag recall, which tons of Jap cars had to go through. I can't say that about any other vehicle I've ever owned, and that includes 4 Jeeps.

Which is better in the study, a 68 or 76? You know what happens when you ASSume, right? What's dragging down Honda currently is the Odyssey has turned to crap. Go back up to my previous posts, the Ridgeline was named number one by Car and Driver for mid sized pickups (for the third year). The Tacoma was number 5. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15378489/best-midsize-trucks/?slide=2 Tacoma number 3 in this list: https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/compact-pickup-trucks

Not according to Consumer Reports.... and the Tacoma only got a average rating... ......" Five of the 15 Toyota models rated by the magazine received the highest possible grade. Only one, the Toyota Tacoma, received an average rating. " The tradeoff – reliability for performance – is one that Toyota refused to make, Fisher said. For the most part, it introduced new concepts in conservative fashion, first dipping a toe in the water before offering any new high-tech feature across the board. The upshot, however, was less-than-stellar scores on the magazine’s test track. As a company, its average score on the track was 68, placing it in the bottom third of all automakers. Honda, meanwhile, received a 76 – a mid-level score. To be sure, Honda did better than many manufacturers in its reliability scores. In contrast, Toyota has maintained its focus on reliability, even when it meant sacrificing in other areas. Its score of 68 on the test track placed it behind, not only Honda, but also Chrysler (85), Buick (75), Dodge (74), Chevy (73), Ford (72), and Nissan (69), among others. " https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/toyota-continues-reliability-dominance-honda-declines/158171123260385

Really, the Cherokee comes with a third row of seat? Where do they mount it, on the roof rack? and the Forerunner only has it in the special edition version, not on the standard version. The Ridgeline has BOTH, bed storage (which can take a cap or bed cover) AND a trunk, so it actually can carry MORE cargo.

Shares the same as the Pilot and MDX, which are both SUV's Gee, that's funny, because every time I'm loading up my Ridgeline at Home Depot or Lowes, people stop and go wow, look at that tailgate... and if you've never experienced it, you don't know what you're missing!!! The OP wants a family vehicle, not one to take in the woods and pull down trees, or bring supplies to the construction site, so those points are useless. The Ridgeline blows the Tacoma away on comfort, ride, finish, interior, etc.

It's a Pilot without the rear hatch. Seats the same number of people as a Cherokee. Actually, probably has more interior room. Not to mention the in bed trunk and the dual swing tailgate (which I think is the BEST feature). Number ONE rated mid sized pickup by Car and Driver... https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a25603385/10best-trucks-suvs-2019/#10bestts2019honda

It actually IS a SUV, just with an open rear. Built on a SUV chassis. When inside, there's no way you can tell it's a pickup. https://automobiles.honda.com/ridgeline/compare/ridgeline-vs-tacoma

Is this better?

That's totally impossible... Your news feed is filled with Socialist, gun grabbing and anti-American "news" stories...

One way is to make the people who are directly around them accessories to the crime, like with family members. In many of these mass shootings, family members, after the fact, state that the shooter was having mental illness issues or unstability, but they didn't do anything about it. I think, if it's proven after a mass shooting that a spouse, family member, girlfriend, etc. knew the shooter was unstable, and had access to guns, or was making threaten actions or posting crazy stuff on Facebook, but they didn't intervene, they should be held to account too.

Your chart doesn't break it out by vehicle model.... so, fail.....

It's a Jeep, once they hit 100K, they all turn to crap and need major repairs... Really?? Going from bad to worse... Get a Honda, you'll be happy you did!

Sadly, AVB's TDS runs so deep and severe, he doesn't even realize it. That's truly the issue with him, he spouts CNN and MSNBC Lies like they are based in fact. Really sad...

Well, he shares the same beliefs about Trump as the flag burner does (go back and read all of AVB Trump rants), so I figured he could share some brotherhood and commiserate about how bad Trump is with the flag burner. Then, they could share a nice bottle of wine together....

@AVB-AMG, Since you're down there, go check out the perfect event for you. You'll feel right at home with your TDS brothers... 'Burn that rag!' Activists to desecrate the flag at Trump July Fourth rally ...." Longtime flag-burning activist Gregory "Joey" Johnson of the Revolutionary Communist Party told the Washington Examiner, "I'm going to be there in D.C.," and "that rag of empire and oppression is going to burn." "I'll be in town to make it happen and to help expose Trump's fascist agenda with the message that America was never great. America was built on slavery, genocide, and war," Johnson said. "Instead of trying to go back to some dreamland America that never existed, we need to go forward to a world without America and everything it stands for." Johnson said he's upset about many recent Trump policies. He's angered by escalating tensions with Iran and detention of people who cross the border illegally. The activist said the flag is "flying over the pens of mass incarceration, filled with 2 million people" and over the "thousands of refugees in dog pens" along the Mexican border. "And yeah, it's the flag of this shameless fascist jackal Trump," he said. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/burn-that-rag-activists-to-desecrate-the-flag-at-trump-july-fourth-rally