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I see a couple of potential issues here. You're telling him to sister another 2x6, 2" up on the existing joist (by screwing it to the old joist) and to run it full length. Depending on his roof line, he might not have the clearance, as the top of the new joist can hit the underside of the roof sheathing on the exterior wall. Second, all the weight of these new joists are going to be carried by that 2" of existing joist resting on the load bearing walls, instead of increasing it by having BOTH joists rest on the load bearing walls. If he's going through this un-necessary exercise, he should rest the new joist on the existing exterior wall and center load bearing wall, just like the existing joist, NOT raise it 2 inches. This way, the weight of the attic floor is being supported by BOTH old joist and new joist, resting on the load bearing walls. Then, he can screw the new to the old to increase structural integrity, if he wishes. To raise the new joist 2 inches, and have to put in tons of screws to fasten it to the existing joist is overkill and a waste of time and effort.

@AVB-AMG Let's start off, you can go stuff it where the sun don't shine. First, you have no idea what I know about construction, but in your usual "I'm smarter than every one else" attitude you spew here regularly, you feel the need to spew your crap. Here's a hint, you AIN'T the sharpest knife in the drawer here, even though you think so. I really don't know what your fu*kin problem is? I'm certainly NOT a "lay-person" in this field. Try some reading comprehension for once. I stated there were variables the OP needed to consider in how his existing structure is built and supported. Without seeing his situation, everyone here is just speculating. I gave some general information based on normal conditions, he's not building a 50 floor office building in NY... geez... @AVB-AMG Oh look, what is he storing? Christmas decorations and light weight boxes. Hey AVB, he needs to double up all his 2x6's with 2x12's, add steel "I" beams, then put down 1-1/2" tongue and groove plywood, right, because after all, he's needs total structural safety in that attic. Thank GOD we have such educated and morally superior people on this forum, like yourself, to protect us peons from major structural collapse. Can you imagine what it would be like to have your Christmas decorations crash down on you while sleeping on your bed? Talk about a national disaster. He has a bunch of variables we don't know. Can he get full 4x8 sheets up there, or will they have to be cut to get them up there. Spreading that 20 lbs over 32 sq ft covering at least 4 joists (depending which way he lays the sheets) would be a non-issue. The flexing while walking on it can be un-nerving, might be time to cut back on the extra Twinkees.

These are great points about how life really operates. Unfortunately, the Special Snowflakes, (like one we have here), have no interest in working their way up the ladder. They expect $70K a year jobs right after college, with their Liberal Arts BS degree. Then, they expect to get a raise and promotion every year, just because. Plus stock options, pensions, FREE healthcare, huge 401K matches, 6 weeks vacation, etc. in their first year of full time employment. The also expect/entitled to be able to buy the same sized 2500 sq. ft. McMansion, that they lived in with their parents when they were teenagers as their first house. They also feel entitled to have two new SUV's in the driveway. Add in they should be able to eat dinner out at least a dozen times a month, buy $5 lattees every morning, and get take out everyday for lunch. This is why they think it's fair to TAKE money from all those evil rich people, as they think they are ENTITLED to the life style I just outlined. Work hard to achieve it? That's not in the plan at all, it should be given to them.

Ha.. I really hate having that same problem. I have my three sitting.. decisions, decisions.. Plus I had to go out of town for a week, so valuable time is clicking off the clock without making a decision..

That is what I said, without writing a short novel. The open span is a bigger issue then the load, if the ceiling joist isn't being supported by a wall below. And the "live load" only uses a small portion of the total available support of the attic floor joists, in most cases, unless someone is storing a library of books or some other uncommon heavy items. Yes, an attic has "live load" with the stored items in it, but it doesn't compare to the "live load" on the main floor like I mentioned above. Not even close. The main floor is carrying the weight of all the walls/sheetrock, cabinets, flooring/tile, plumbing fixtures, doors, all types of heavy furniture, personal belongings, and finally people. Plus add in the weight of the attic and what's stored up there. There's a hell of a lot more "live load" on the main floor joists than the attic, and there's usually very few walls under that main floor to help support it. So, back to the OP, unless he has some really long open spans that the ceiling joists run across, 2x6's with 1/2" plywood would be fine for the average attic storage. The only weight on those joists now is the ceiling sheetrock on the bottom of the joists.16" OC is fine for that application.

FWIW, one of my references were on AOL and one on Gmail. They both got the emails right away. So, it could be a email handling program issue, or ISP issue too.

Another thing every needs to keep in mind, this is an attic, that only gets accessed very seldom. It's not a main living floor that has people and furniture using it every day. Don't over think the obvious. Holiday decorations don't weigh all that much. Now, if he's storing ammo up there....

I agree, 1/2" is normally fine for standard loads over 2x6's. The important factor is how many of those joists have walls underneath? If a bunch are supported by walls, then the overall load will be spread over a wider area. If those 2x6's span wide rooms, keep heavy weights off the centers. Also, unless he weights 300 lbs., a "normal human can walk on the 1/2' plywood.

This is true: ..." Philanthropic giving is one of the primary pursuits of the wealthy, particularly among the ultra wealthy, with 36% of the rich, and 57% of the super rich pointing to charitable giving as one of their top interests. Last year the ultra wealthy made several high-profile mega-gifts. For example, Jeff and MacKenzie Bezos donated $2 billion to the Day One Fund to help the homeless, and Michael Bloomberg gave $1.8 billion to his alma malter, Johns Hopkins University, for financial aid. " This is also true, and contrary to Greenday's illusion, the majority of rich people are SELF MADE (yes Greenday, they worked for it) versus inheriting it. ...."Only a small percentage of the world's richest people inherited all of their money. The majority are responsible for self creating some or all of their fortune, according to the report. Nearly 84% of high-net-worth-individuals made their own fortunes. Only about 5% completely inherited their money and about 12% have a fortune that combines inherited and self-made wealth." https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/success/world-wealth/index.html and lastly Greenday, here's the secret. Learn these ten important points, and you too can be an evil rich person: Here's one from the list: 2. The middle class live above their means, the rich live below The rich don’t spend their money on depreciating liabilities, they spend their money on appreciating assets and they live below their means. https://www.lifehack.org/articles/money/10-differences-between-middle-class-and-rich-people.html

Why are you so focused on TAKING money from the rich to give to the less fortunate who blow all their money? You know, the paycheck to paycheck crowd. Lack of self control in spending is the majority of the reason these people are poor. Why aren't you preaching for these poor people to spend LESS then they make or adjust their spending to their income? How's that for a novel approach? The key to becoming rich (which apparently you haven't figured out), is to spend LESS then you make. Did it ever occur to you that the reason these evil people ARE rich, was because they SAVED their money and DIDN'T blow their complete paychecks each week? The bottom half of the population (almost 50% of the population) doesn't pay any income taxes. So guess who is paying for all the government services YOU use every day? The RICH PEOPLE.

Well, sort of. If your parents are slackers, and choose to live off the system, instead of improving themselves and their situation, odds are, you'll copy them, become a socialist slug too, living off of the system. The true economic ladder has nothing to do with that.

This is my biggest issue with the Greendays of the world. The rich already pay tens of thousands MORE for the same services Greenday receives, but in their Socialist world, they still think those evil rich people should pay even more. These Socialists will never look at a tax chart to see the actual numbers, it would destroy their narrative.

Really? So you want to STEAL money from people who earned it and give it to other people for FREE, who DON'T want to work for it? Really? How Communist of you. Really? When in the past was this exactly in America, when the fruits of someone's hard work (evil rich person) was stolen from them, and GIVEN to the middle class? Inquiring minds want to know.

Ha.. I was wondering the same thing. Until it's clear the 9th isn't going to overturn it, I would have waited. We know their history... There's potential for many boating accidents if the 9th gets it's way.

Sadly, yes they will.

Ha... The race is over. I finally have them in my hands. The clerk filled them out on 3/27 (but I got the email that they were approved 3/23) and send them over to the Chief to sign. I stopped in last Friday to see what's up. They were still waiting for his signature. Finally got the call today to pick up. A week to get 3 signatures. They told me I was the first guinea pig for the new system. Now they know how to log in and process for the future.

I don't think you need a specific 2A lawyer to handle it. Any lawyer that does wills can write it anyway you want. One question, you mentioned no kids, is there a significant other in your life that you would will your estate/firearms to? If so, then they would be the one to handle disposing of the firearms and your stuff. If no significant other, how about brothers/sisters? Alternatively, any buddies that are shooters that you might give them to? I would suggest making a list of your collection and outlining where specifically the items go when you pass. That list can be attached to your normal will, and the lawyer will incorporate it. Example, in my case, wifey automatically assumes my belongings when I go. But, she's not a fan of my shooting hobby, and wants no part of it. So, I have two sons. I wrote a specific document on where all my firearm related stuff goes and attached it to my will. When I take a dirt nap, wifey doesn't even have to deal with any firearm related issues, it all immediately passes to my sons to deal with. She'll just take all my money and have a hell of a party and vacation!

I was going to suggest that too. We did first aid in CERT training class, but it wasn't a hands-on class, just sitting through a lecture. Doing hands-on bandaging, CPR, etc. practice is better during a class. Plus, CERT ends up being a commitment, not sure he's looking for that, to be part of a emergency group. It looks like he wants some basic training. I'll come down and do it if the price is right.

Wow, not a single ex Boy Scout/Girl Scout in the group. That's not good. Knowing basic first aid is truly a matter of life or death in many cases. The life you save, might be your own. Call your local rescue squad in your town. Many usually hold classes to teach basic first aid for groups, businesses, Scouts, etc. Other option is to call the fire department and see if they do any classes. Or, check this Red Cross site: https://www.redcross.org/local/new-jersey/take-a-class/first-aid Lastly, the county colleges or votech have adult school classes, check there.

From that link: ...."Becerra said in a statement that California leads the nation when it comes to gun safety and refuses to go backward. The state has prohibited such magazines since 2000, though people who had such magazines before then were allowed to keep them. Benitez threw out both the 2000 law and then 2016 law and ballot measure banning possession."

Update: Approved by the city council and now moves to be signed by the mayor into law: PITTSBURGH – The Pittsburgh City Council gave final approval Tuesday to gun restrictions proposed after last year's synagogue massacre, inviting a legal challenge by gun-rights activists who have long tangled with the city over firearms. After taking an initial vote last week, the all-Democratic council voted 6-3 to send the legislation to the desk of Democratic Mayor Bill Peduto, who is expected to sign the bills into law. The legislation places restrictions on military-style assault weapons like the AR-15 rifle that authorities say was used in the Oct. 27 rampage at Tree of Life Synagogue that killed 11 and wounded seven. It also bans most uses of armor-piercing ammunition and high-capacity magazines, and allows the temporary seizure of guns from people who are determined to be a danger to themselves or others. https://www.foxnews.com/us/pittsburgh-approves-gun-restrictions-lawsuits-expected

Ha.. (raises hand, sort of...) Actually, I was one who moved back after living in Virginia for 6 years, but DIDN'T want to come back. Wifey wanted to come back to help with medical issues her parents were having. In the end, it cost me less to move back then it would have cost me to get a divorce... But, she's still on the hook, and owes me, to leave again, once her mother takes a dirt nap.

Yeah, really. Just admit you were sucked into the joke. Speaking of stupidity, if that's the case, why respond to my posts and make posts on the threads I start? Hmmm...

Need something a lot stronger to deal with his (and the rest of his generation) idiocy.

That's a hint.