I'm trying to put together a fighting rifle chambered in 6.8 SPC or 7.62 (.308). I'm just beginning my research on this and really don't know what to look at. Everything geared around the AR platform is not allowed in NJ. I've looked at S&W's offering and Sig's as well, but I really want something more than a 5.56. The 6.8SPC looks like a very good combat round but there aren't very many weapons available for sale in NJ. The Springfield M1A seems like a good rifle but I don't know what models are available here. Could you guys help me?

 

I'd like a rifle that has rails, or could be fitted with rails for forward grips, lights, holo sight, ect.

Something I could find 15rd magazines for.

 

What weapons chambered in 6.8 and 7.62 would make a good platform for a fighting rifle?

 

P.S. I do not currently own a rifle, shotgun and pistol only, so this process is completely new to me.

Thanks for the help!!!

.308 AR's are legal in NJ.

Great!!! Where should I look?

DPMS makes some really pretty .308 AR's. Just make sure the stock is NOT collapsible, it has a permanently attached muzzle break and NOT a flash supressor, it does NOT have a bayonet jug and that the magazines do NOT hold more than 15 rounds.

 

Otherwise, have fun.

The Springfield M1A seems like a good rifle but I don't know what models are available here.

Lou's has one and I think it's $2000+ or more.

I picked up an Armalite AR10 last Jan. Armalite and Springfield Armory both offer 15 round mags for their .308 rifles. I may be wrong, but I don't believe DPMS makes 15 round mags.

Chad & Caine,

 

If I purchased a rifle out of state, shipped it to ADCO, they would know exactly what to do? I don't know what muzzle breaks are allowed, if they all are, or only certain ones.

 

The stock on the rifles I'm looking at are 6 position, does it have to be pinned at the farthest setting or could I have it pinned at any setting?

The stock on the rifles I'm looking at are 6 position, does it have to be pinned at the farthest setting or could I have it pinned at any setting?

 

The stock has to be pinned but be aware the the requirement of the overall length must be met.

McClane - I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge:

What you should do first, is purchase the services you want ADCO to perform on their website - typically on a no-ban rifle, this will include welding/pinning a muzzle brake/compensator ($30), de-lugging the bayonet lug ($15), and pinning the stock ($30). If you are sending them a rifle that has handguards/rail installed, they may charge you an assembly/dis assembly fee ($35-50) depending on what they have to do to get to the existing muzzle device. Put a comment in the notes saying you are going to ship them XYZ rifle and what position to pin the stock at. Once your order is complete, you will get an order number.

Now, you purchase the rifle you want and have it shipped to ADCO. ADCO will be the receiving FFL for this order. Make sure to tell the shipper to include a reference to your order # above so ADCO knows what work to do on the rifle when they receive it.

Lastly, you will need to contact your receiving FFL in NJ and have them fax/email a copy of their FFL to ADCO, so ADCO knows where to ship your spiffy new NJ compliant blaster.

 

If you're looking at 6.8 or 7.62, you will have to look into some brakes that are specifically designed for larger caliber bullets. Off the top of my head, the only brake/comp I can think of that does those rounds is the PWS FCS30. I'm sure there are others, but as I've never looked at any larger caliber weapons, I haven't done the research. ADCO doesn't really carry too many muzzle brakes, so you may have to purchase that somewhere else (like Rainier, in the link) and ship it to them.

 

As far as the stock length goes, you can pin it to any of the 6 positions you want, as long as the overall length of the rifle meets the legal requirements. I think the minimum legal overall length is 26", but don't quote me on that. So, basically, you can pin the stock all the way closed (which i wouldn't recommend unless you're a midget or wear a few layers of body armor ) as long as the rifle, from end to end, meets the minimum requirments.

 

Anyway, I know that's a lot of stuff to absorb and sounds much more complicated than it is. Honestly, the best thing to do if you're thinking about using ADCO is to ignore everything I said and contact [email protected] and ask him any questions you may have They also have a very active subforum on AR15.com in the Industry section, where they answer a lot of questions about what can and can't be done.

Thanks. That's seems like the most logical course of action. The rifle I'm looking at is a LWRC M6A2 w/MRE finish (6.8SPC). I'll call ADCO to see if they are familiar with this rifle, I'm sure they are, and see what it would take to make it legal. I think that I will most definitely pin the stock as far forward as possible as long as it's over 26'', with a 16'' barrel I shouldn't have any problems. Precision Reflex Inc. makes a pretty nice muzzle break for a 6.8SPC, as well as, what seem to be very decent mag's in 15rd's, they are the same mags available from DPMS so there is some decent reviews. This is going to be a long and expensive process but I want to get it done before it's too late.

Nice choice on the LWRC. I've had the opportunity to tinker around with their PSD rifle (featured on Future Weapons), and their staff and firearms are nothing short of awesome. It'll be worth the time and money.

I wouldn't bother trying to call ADCO. Unless something has changed, they only answer the phones for like 1 hour a day, and may not even do that. Even tho they crank out orders relatively fast (5-8 days last time I checked), they're swamped, and don't want people calling them. Best way to contact them is email or their sub-forum on arfcom.

 

Even tho I've never really gotten on the gas-piston wagon, I've heard a lot of good things about LWRC. And the 6.8SPC rounds have some interesting characteristics. Should be an interesting combination.

 

I have a pair of 15 rnd PRI mags in 5.56 and they're nice. A bit heavy and pricey, but they seem solid. Should be a good choice.

 

Your project will be pricey, but you'll end up with a really nice setup. And one that'll probably be pretty unique in NJ too Good luck!

I did e-mail them and they got back to me pretty quickly, only about an hour or so. Their prices are reasonable, I hope they do good work. I was also looking at the Barrett REC7 but they are around $3000 and are backed up with orders till the rest of the year. I'm going to read more into the LWRC and see what I can find.

They've always been good at replying to my emails within 2-3 hours at most. I dealt with Dave mostly, and Steve a couple times. I was very happy with their work, prices, and turn around time. Yeah, you'll spend an extra hundred or so on the gun to NJify it, but at least you'll know it was done right.

That's all that matters!!! As long as the work is top notch I'll be happy. I was torn between DI vs Gas Piston but GP's seem cleaner and more reliable, but more expensive. This is my first rifle so I may be going overboard but WTH I might as well spend it before it gets taken.