On 2/4/2023 at 9:51 PM, trnq said:

That's ridiculous. They must have lost your application or something. I applied for non-resident permit at Totowa NJSP in mid August. Had the permit issued on the 19th as well, probably one of the same 20 ppl as your friend.

Contact [email protected] - that's the head unit at NJSP superintendent office that oversees CCW permitting for the state. They should have received your application after Totowa cleared you and should be able to tell you the status. 

Thanks for the email tip, I have emailed them in November, prior to them changing the process. I re-emailed  them last week, hopefully this time they have my application and can offer me some info. They didn't lose my app, confirmed recently by the investigating trooper,  however it may have worked its way to the bottom of the pile after a followup call. I am always polite, in any case,  it's possible that over worked cops don't appreciate follow up calls.

14 hours ago, DbleTrouble said:

Since I submitted before the changes after 60 days should I be contacting the chief to get an update?

That's up to you.  Too many variables to consider for me to offer advice.  Is the chief 2A friendly?  Is the town / local government 2A friendly?  Is there a Moms Demand Action person on the governing body?  And so on...

13 hours ago, Frank Thomas said:

CM, you're saying the police have 90 days to approve/deny the carry app?  Is this in writing somewhere?  And what happens if they go over the 90 day limit?  thanks

And nothing happens, just like the fact that most PDs don't make or ignore the turn-around time for pistol permits.  Nobody is ever held accountable as "they" don't want you to own, let alone carry firearms.

16 hours ago, Flyingcarpenter said:

Thanks for the email tip, I have emailed them in November, prior to them changing the process. I re-emailed  them last week, hopefully this time they have my application and can offer me some info. They didn't lose my app, confirmed recently by the investigating trooper,  however it may have worked its way to the bottom of the pile after a followup call. I am always polite, in any case,  it's possible that over worked cops don't appreciate follow up calls.

The PD should have given you a case number when you submitted the application.  That is how applications are tracked along with everything else.

Everyone I know who applied at the state police level, did not get a case number. Not saying your wrong.

22 hours ago, Frank Thomas said:

CM, you're saying the police have 90 days to approve/deny the carry app?  Is this in writing somewhere?  And what happens if they go over the 90 day limit?  thanks

If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything. 

43 minutes ago, RadioGunner said:

If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything. 

This.  Use your brain.  Don't carry if you don't have the permission slip.

1 hour ago, RadioGunner said:

If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything. 

Once application is “complete” the Chief has 90 days to approve or deny the CCW.

Chief may extend 30 more days for good cause with written notification to the applicant.

Chief may take longer than the initial 120 days if necessary - that extension must be agreed upon by both the applicant and Chief.

FYI

 

https://newjersey.news12.com/casino-association-of-nj-announces-firearms-will-not-be-allowed-in-atlantic-city-casinos

 

9 hours ago, CMJeepster said:

And nothing happens, just like the fact that most PDs don't make or ignore the turn-around time for pistol permits.  Nobody is ever held accountable as "they" don't want you to own, let alone carry firearms.

Be nice if the US Supreme Court allowed individuals to sue States that improperly delay the gun licensing app.  I'm beginning to dislike liberals

21 minutes ago, joeg said:

FYI

 

https://newjersey.news12.com/casino-association-of-nj-announces-firearms-will-not-be-allowed-in-atlantic-city-casinos

 

AC still has casinos? Saves me from going to the dumpy AC casinos I guess. 

1 hour ago, joeg said:

FYI

 

https://newjersey.news12.com/casino-association-of-nj-announces-firearms-will-not-be-allowed-in-atlantic-city-casinos

 

I saw that. Already updated the ‘businesses where you can’t carry’ page

On 2/6/2023 at 6:28 PM, DbleTrouble said:

Since I submitted before the changes after 60 days should I be contacting the chief to get an update?

If your paperwork did not get sent to the courts before the new laws, I believe you are subject to the new laws minus the TRO and the new fees.

8 hours ago, 10X said:

I saw that. Already updated the ‘businesses where you can’t carry’ page

You never were allowed to carry in a casino.

With the tro issued you could now the casinos are saying no but they have to put up sognage

 

1 hour ago, exfed2002 said:

You never were allowed to carry in a casino.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Vdep217 said:

With the tro issued you could now the casinos are saying no but they have to put up sognage

 

1 hour ago, exfed2002 said:

You never were allowed to carry in a casino.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's utter BS!

 

While I agree it is their right to exclude carry.   We fight for 2a but often forget about other rights

36 minutes ago, Downtownv said:

That's utter BS!

 

 

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3 hours ago, Vdep217 said:

We fight for 2a but often forget about other rights

Huh?

15 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said:

Huh?

Like property owner rights...   It is private property and the owner has the right to not allow carry via signage.   The difference is this is a trespassing charge vs felony gun charge like carrying at a school for example.  

5 minutes ago, ESB said:

Like property owner rights...   It is private property and the owner has the right to not allow carry via signage.   The difference is this is a trespassing charge vs felony gun charge like carrying at a school for example.  

Yeah, I don't think anyone here disagrees with that.

I think the gunslinger picture was posted tongue-in-cheek...

Put up a sign you don't get my dime.

1 minute ago, brucin said:

Put up a sign you don't get my dime.

This is the way. 

1 minute ago, 124gr9mm said:

Yeah, I don't think anyone here disagrees with that.

I think the gunslinger picture was posted tongue-in-cheek...

it was.

 

11 minutes ago, ESB said:

Like property owner rights...   It is private property and the owner has the right to not allow carry via signage.   The difference is this is a trespassing charge vs felony gun charge like carrying at a school for example.  

The problem I have with this is the state encouraging or even demanding that establishments ban carry. And that any ban doesn’t extend to retired law enforcement. 
 

Any ban should be entirely voluntary and the state should have no say. Unfortunately I suspect they’ve been getting nudged by the administration. 

9 minutes ago, brucin said:

Put up a sign you don't get my dime.

Absolutely.  Whether I'm currently carrying or not.  If you put up a sign and you aren't required, you are black listed. Not using your services again, and will recommend others to stay away.   

 

5 minutes ago, RadioGunner said:

The problem I have with this is the state encouraging or even demanding that establishments ban carry. And that any ban doesn’t extend to retired law enforcement. 

You can bet your ass, that's exactly what occurred with the casinos. As for other businesses that post that kind of sign they should post one next to it that says "We welcome thugs to come in and rob us we have no other people in here with guns"

3 minutes ago, RadioGunner said:

The problem I have with this is the state encouraging or even demanding that establishments ban carry. And that any ban doesn’t extend to retired law enforcement. 

When the State said they were going to tell private citizens and businesses that they SHOULD put up signs, the judge was very quick and clear to correct them that they can only say they CAN put up signs.  

3 minutes ago, ESB said:

Absolutely.  Whether I'm currently carrying a or not.  If you put up a sign and you aren't required, you are black listed. Not using your services again, and will recommend others to stay away.   

 

Call those businesses out as you find them, and I'll add them to this list:  List of NJ Businesses Posting 'No Guns' Signs

11 minutes ago, Downtownv said:

yiou can bet your ass that's exactly what occurred with the casinos. As for other businesses that post that kind of sign they should post one next to it that says "We welcome thugs to come in and rob us we have no other people in here with guns"

Businesses that put up signs should also be on the hook for everyone's protection.  If you prevent me from protecting myself and my family and something happens, it all fall on you.