Matt, cocked and locked is the only way to carry a 1911. It has a safety and should be used.

 

Tim, isn't it technically locked due to the grip safety?

Just a point - I don't doubt the 1911, I believe it would protect me without any ftf or fte despite the stovepipe we experienced today. And yes, cocked and locked is the ONLY way to carry the 1911.

 

If I were to carry, it would probably be my xd though. I have never ever experienced any issues with this pistol, 12 rd +1 capacity gives me 4 more chances against the bad guy(s), I can check if it's cocked and loaded in the dark, and (probably the most important feature of any carry weapon) I am intimately familiar with it and I trust it.

Just a point - I don't doubt the 1911, I believe it would protect me without any ftf or fte despite the stovepipe we experienced today. And yes, cocked and locked is the ONLY way to carry the 1911.

 

If I were to carry, it would probably be my xd though. I have never ever experienced any issues with this pistol, 12 rd +1 capacity gives me 4 more chances against the bad guy(s), I can check if it's cocked and loaded in the dark, and (probably the most important feature of any carry weapon) I am intimately familiar with it and I trust it.

 

Being more familiar with a gun and trusting it are definitely the most important facts. But I'm surprised you would carry that XD, I wouldn't say that thing weighs less than the 1911 and its definitely bigger

It is an extra safety yes, but the thumb safety was the original design and the most reliable. The grip safety was added at the request of the Cavalry who was afraid of just the thumb safety disengaging while riding. This was their first auto, coming from revolvers.

Although it is one step less you have to remember, and if you are familiarized with drawing a glock you may forget to take the safety off..that would be a ****..

 

WORSE - the 1911 is a down motion on the safety to release. My Bersa is an upmotion (think Walther PPK if you must)... Last thing I want is to 'forget' in the heat of the moment which way to move my thumb.

It is an extra safety yes, but the thumb safety was the original design and the most reliable. The grip safety was added at the request of the Cavalry who was afraid of just the thumb safety disengaging while riding. This was their first auto, coming from revolvers.

 

AHHHH ok that makes sense now. Always wondered how that came about. But like you said, if your shooting the way you showed me, when you lock on with your grip, your deactivating that safety, its just you need to become very fluid with it, and the only way to do that is practice practice practice.

It is an extra safety yes, but the thumb safety was the original design and the most reliable. The grip safety was added at the request of the Cavalry who was afraid of just the thumb safety disengaging while riding. This was their first auto, coming from revolvers.

 

Intresting I did not know that. Maybe i should get a horse now?

Wife: what is the horse for.

Husband: it goes with my 1911.

It is an extra safety yes, but the thumb safety was the original design and the most reliable. The grip safety was added at the request of the Cavalry who was afraid of just the thumb safety disengaging while riding. This was their first auto, coming from revolvers.

 

Intresting I did not know that. Maybe i should get a horse now?

Wife: what is the horse for.

Husband: it goes with my 1911.

 

only on NJGF would crap like this come up

I guess I'm still nervous about carrying a semi and would prefer a snubbie instead. I'd rather have 5 garanteed shots than 9 or 10 or whatever almost garanteed shots. Plus there simple, no safeties and no cocking. Point, squeeze, repeat if neccessary.

I'm surprised you would carry that XD, I wouldn't say that thing weighs less than the 1911 and its definitely bigger

 

Actually, the Service XD is almost identical in size to the 1911.

 

RayRay has a point though with the snubbie.

I guess I'm still nervous about carrying a semi and would prefer a snubbie instead. I'd rather have 5 garanteed shots than 9 or 10 or whatever almost garanteed shots. Plus there simple, no safeties and no cocking. Point, squeeze, repeat if neccessary.

 

Get an HK, problem solved. None of mine have jammed in 10,000 rounds of +p+, hollow points, reloads, steel cased, whatever. They just go bang every time.

Get an HK, problem solved. None of mine have jammed in 10,000 rounds of +p+, hollow points, reloads, steel cased, whatever. They just go bang every time.

 

If you do a contact shot (to the gut for instance), there's a significant chance a semi will jam. A revolver on the other hand...

Get an HK, problem solved. None of mine have jammed in 10,000 rounds of +p+, hollow points, reloads, steel cased, whatever. They just go bang every time.

 

If you do a contact shot (to the gut for instance), there's a significant chance a semi will jam. A revolver on the other hand...

 

I'm really not planning on getting that close.

I'm not 'planning' on having to shoot someone at all...

I don't care what semi auto you own, or how many rounds you've fired threw her, or what aftermarket parts you put in her. It will never, NEVER, be as reliable as a revolver. Facts are facts, and a 5 shot snubbie is still the best way to go.