I know this isn't about gun laws, but I tried searching on Google, and didn't get any answers.

 

I got pulled over today by a Trooper and he cut me a break with a written warning.

 

Where does the original page of the Warning go? The speed was written in pen on the copy I received, so it was obvious he wrote in a different speed on the copy he had to turn in.

 

Does it come up on the driver's abstract? If so, for how long and who can see that?

 

Can he change his mind and send me a ticket in the mail?

 

Another thing he said was that he was going to call my uncle whose FOP card I gave him. This seems odd, how would he find him if his number wasn't on the back of the card? Was this just to scare me? He also said the judge would take my license. I know it would be a bunch of points and fines.. but take the license? That seems excessive.

 

And... if you are the trooper who cut me the break and are on this site, Thank You.

The warning goes in a box never to be seen again. Unless you make issue of it. Then they will dig it up.

And yes, he was just giving you an emotional spanking.

The warning goes in a box never to be seen again. Unless you make issue of it. Then they will dig it up.

And yes, he was just giving you an emotional spanking.

 

Nah Man.. I don't want to make an issue of it, I'm just looking for information.

 

The Troopers on 78 were out in full force today.. I was speeding.. he tagged me (although I don't believe his number.. but that's not the matter here).

 

Honestly.. I just made a mistake.. I didn't realize I was going that fast..

 

I appreciate him cutting me the break.

It happens, especialy on 78.. those people boogy on that rd.

Probably Tacpac out in that area.

 

More often and not, you write your own ticket. Troops give out MUCH more warnings than tickets.

Probably Tacpac out in that area.

 

More often and not, you write your own ticket. Troops give out MUCH more warnings than tickets.

 

I've never seen troopers pull over someone who didn't deserve it and go out of their way to make it known.

 

I've never seen troopers pull over someone who didn't deserve it and go out of their way to make it known.

 

That's because you're not black.

 

I've never seen troopers pull over someone who didn't deserve it and go out of their way to make it known.

 

That's because you're not black.

 

My father's black.

It happens, especialy on 78.. those people boogy on that rd.

 

No kidding! I was going 80 on 78 this wkend and people were coming up behind me like on the autobahn (speaking from experience).

 

I've never seen troopers pull over someone who didn't deserve it and go out of their way to make it known.

 

That's because you're not black.

 

My father's black.

 

Then perhaps he has. You should ask him about it.

Then perhaps he has. You should ask him about it.

 

 

I've never seen troopers pull over someone who didn't deserve it and go out of their way to make it known.

 

That's because you're not black.

 

 

Yeah because the FIRST think you look at when a car goes past you at 75 MPH is the color of the driver..... :roll:

 

Cold, your Uncle's name and local# are on the card the Troopers usually turn them over to the delegates so they can eb returned with a note on the violation.

 

 

Yeah because the FIRST think you look at when a car goes past you at 75 MPH is the color of the driver..... :roll:

 

 

 

Please turn your sarcasm and humor meter back on. Thank you.

 

I've never seen troopers pull over someone who didn't deserve it and go out of their way to make it known.

 

That's because you're not black.

 

 

Yeah because the FIRST think you look at when a car goes past you at 75 MPH is the color of the driver..... :roll:

 

Cold, your Uncle's name and local# are on the card the Troopers usually turn them over to the delegates so they can eb returned with a note on the violation.

 

Ok, that makes sense, thanks.. I didn't think there was some database of LEO's they could just call up at random.

The written warning is specfic to the NJSP.

 

No municipal or county agenies are permitted to use those types on conctacts on a official basis.. But the warning it self is used to start fire for anyone lucky enough to have a nice wood burning stove.

 

That's because you're not black

 

I'M NOT !!!!!!!! :shifty:

(makes me think of that line from Legal Weapon II or III or IV???)

The written warning is specfic to the NJSP.

 

No municipal or county agenies are permitted to use those types on conctacts on a official basis.. But the warning it self is used to start firearm for anyone lucky enough to have a nice wood burning stove.

 

:confusion-scratchheadblue: :confusion-scratchheadyellow: :confusion-helpsos:

He also said the judge would take my license. I know it would be a bunch of points and fines.. but take the license? That seems excessive.

 

I was once stopped by an officer in Colts Neck for apparently speeding 80 mph on the 50 mph stretch of Route 34 that runs through NWS Earle. I won't deny that I was speeding, but I did have the cruise control set at just over 60 mph, nowhere near 80 mph. 30+ mph over the limit is a 5-point ticket, and a court appearance is usually required.

 

I went to court on the specified day, expecting to have the prosecutor offer a plea bargain for a 4 point violation (15-29 mph over the limit), or maybe, if I was lucky, a 2 point violation (1-14 mph over the limit). Instead, they told me that my license was to be suspended for between 30 days and 90 days. For a single speeding ticket. I had at the time 2 points on my license for an 'unsafe lane change' from 2 1/2 years prior, but the prosecutor said that didn't matter -- even if I had a completely clear license for 30 years, Colts Neck local statutes had a mandatory 30 - 90 day license suspension for a 5-point violation. The best offer the prosecutor would give was a recommendation to the judge that my license be "only" suspended for 30 days, not 90 days, a $500 fine, a $150 yearly surcharge from the DMV for 3 years, and $100 to the DMV to reinstate my license after the suspension. So $1,050 in fines, 30 day license suspension, and whatever the insurance company decided to charge for the next 3 years.

 

This was completely unexpected of course, so I said that I wanted to consult with a lawyer. A new court date was scheduled, and I hired a lawyer, who was able to bring it down to a 2-point violation with no license suspension. Even though the lawyer charged $500, it ended up costing much less than what it did -- $200 fine and no increase in insurance rate (since the previous 2-point ticket was by then more than 3 years in the past and no longer affected my rate), so $700 total.

 

So yes, just a speeding ticket can result in a license suspension, in addition to the points and fees.

The warning will go into the NJ "crime database" that police have access to when they run your record at a traffic stop.

 

I bought a new car last year with tinted windows. Got pulled over in Lake Hopatcong, they gave me a warning on the windows.

 

Earlier this year still had the tint on the windows. Got pulled over by Morris County Park Police specifically for the window. He wrote me a ticket on it because "you had a warning a year ago in Lake Hopatcong and didn't remove the tint".

"Crime Database"?? Do you mean NCIC (National Crime Information Center)? No, NCIC is reserved for missing / wanted persons and stolen vehicles etc. NOT for traffic incidents. Not even local warrants. CJIS, ATS and ACS is for warrants as well. There is something called a CAD (computer aided dispatch). This system will keep a record of each every "dealings" you've had with the police, but only for that town, however departments have been known to call neighboring towns to "check in house" to see if you've had any dealings with that town. Police do not have access to this cad system unless they have a MDT in their car. If they do not, they have to call dispatch and ask for your DL history which is kept in the DMV database which warnings are not entered.

I was told by one trooper that the warning stays on file for 90 days, while another trooper told me it stood on file for one year.

 

I use to get 3 or 4 warnings a week when I first got my license and that went on for years... Not once did a trooper that handed me a warning say anything about any of the many other warnings that where handed to me in the prior days of him pulling me over.

"Crime Database"?? Do you mean NCIC (National Crime Information Center)? No, NCIC is reserved for missing / wanted persons and stolen vehicles etc. NOT for traffic incidents. Not even local warrants. CJIS, ATS and ACS is for warrants as well. There is something called a CAD (computer aided dispatch). This system will keep a record of each every "dealings" you've had with the police, but only for that town, however departments have been known to call neighboring towns to "check in house" to see if you've had any dealings with that town. Police do not have access to this cad system unless they have a MDT in their car. If they do not, they have to call dispatch and ask for your DL history which is kept in the DMV database which warnings are not entered.

 

Did I claim to be an expert on this? :roll: Right, I don't know exactly what it is or what it is called, hence the quotes. Thanks for the clarification though.

 

Must have been CAD or a call into the dispatcher then. The point being, the fact that I got a warning was available to a police officer in a different town a year later.

Quotes usually represent an exact phrase.

I'll say it again. If a Trooper writes you a warning, their copy goes in a box. That's it, no computer, no crime lab, a box.

I'll say it again. If a Trooper writes you a warning, their copy goes in a box. That's it, no computer, no crime lab, a box.

 

How big is that box? Cause I could swear to god I have one of my own.

I'll say it again. If a Trooper writes you a warning, their copy goes in a box. That's it, no computer, no crime lab, a box.

 

How big is that box? Cause I could swear to god I have one of my own.

 

If they were logged in anywhere else do you think that you would have been given so many? The hammer would have dropped right quick if the information was worth noting beyond a piece of paper.

How fast were you allegedly going?

 

heh, how fast were you going cold?

I'll say it again. If a Trooper writes you a warning, their copy goes in a box. That's it, no computer, no crime lab, a box.

 

How big is that box? Cause I could swear to god I have one of my own.

 

If they were logged in anywhere else do you think that you would have been given so many? The hammer would have dropped right quick if the information was worth noting beyond a piece of paper.

 

Yeah I'm with ya on this one. I would have lost my license ten times over already.

I'm not too sure about just the state police giving written warnings. I know for sure that Roxbury township gives them (my wife just got one) I know Fair Lawn and I think Denville gives them also. As far as one town knowing what the other town did when they stopped you, that's as simple as the officer calling dispath and saying Annie see if any of the surrounding towns have anything on this guy. (Usually looking for warrants) dispather calls the other local PD's and comes back with something like....they have nothing, but XYZ town wrote him for tinted windows November of last year. Every MV stop has to have a disposition which goes in the CAD. Usually, the officer just clears, (nothing issued) written warning or summons issued.

The warning will go into the NJ "crime database" that police have access to when they run your record at a traffic stop.

 

That is totally incorrect. A "warning summons" issued cannot be entered into the NJ DMV database. As only a summons issued under a state statute and if and when the operator found to be guilty in a court or law or a plea of guilty is entered will the summons be posted. The NJ DMV database will also have administrative references.

 

Whoever told you that was giving you a line of BS. At best the state may maintain a in house DB but that would not be available outside of their agency. Even that is probably a long shot.

 

see if any of the surrounding towns have anything on this guy

Local warrants are not entered into the state database. they create too many problems for minor warrants resulting from a parking summons or a town ordinance. They stay locally in house. that is the reason to call around if they so chose to do so. Most don't bother.

Local warrants are not entered into the state database. they create too many problems for minor warrants resulting from a parking summons or a town ordinance. They stay locally in house. that is the reason to call around if they so chose to do so. Most don't bother.

 

Like you said, local warrants are certainly not entered into NCIC at the national level. But what about ATS and ACS? Aren't they both state wide?