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Suicide @ Assunpink WMA's rifle range...

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There was a fatal shooting today at the rifle range in the assunpink wildlife management area on imlaystown-hightstown road in upper freehold. A self inflicted rifle shot to the head. Victim was pronounced DOA at the scene. Incident happened just a few mins after 5 pm.

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Chris and I get information rather quickly...right brotha?? ;)

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Theres a range in Freehold?

 

Upper freehold...

 

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assunpink does not have a rifle range, shotgun and bow only so it may have been intentional.

 

 

Right...it was a suicide. As per the poilice, they are calling it the rifle range. I've never been there so I dont know.

Chris and I get information rather quickly...right brotha?? ;)

 

:handgestures-thumbup:

Didn't have the courtesy to off him self at home? Seriously, I have no sympathy who take that route.

Unfortunately more "ammo" for the gun-grabbers.

 

Thankfully, too late for Corzine to use it with effect against Christie.

Suicide is for the weak.

 

I feel sorry for any family he left behind.

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lol...exactly.

 

As for details, no. Papers typically do not print suicides out of respect to the family. Unless of course it is a high ranking official tied up in a corruption incident, or a celebrity hanging himself for sexual gratification dressed in womens clothing with a red ball gag in his mouth wearing a leather mask with a zipper over the mouth! :shock: Even a banker or stock broker etc involved in some sort of ponzi scheme. ;) This poor soul is unfortunatley a nobody as far as news agencies are concerned and is not print worthy.

Suicide is for the weak.

 

I feel sorry for any family he left behind.

 

You, myself, and anyone who hasn't truly considered taking their own life can definitely look at suicide as an option only for the weak. That it is for people who just want an 'easy way out' and not have to deal with whatever problems they might have.

 

However, having never been there, we can never truly comprehend what is going through the minds of people who commit or attempt suicide. These people sincerely believe that killing themselves is the only path that they have. They believe that there is no other option.

 

It is an act of desperation, not weakness.

Desperation is weakness. I understand its all opinion, but for someone to reach that point of desperation means they (regardless of their situation) made enough bad choices. I believe in accountability, and sure I could blame everyone and everything else for my short comings-- but we all know who is responsible for what happens in our own lives...

 

(ourselves)

Desperation is weakness. I understand its all opinion, but for someone to reach that point of desperation means they (regardless of their situation) made enough bad choices. I believe in accountability, and sure I could blame everyone and everything else for my short comings-- but we all know who is responsible for what happens in our own lives...

 

(ourselves)

 

You're discounting other possible contributing factors, over which some people have no control, such as depression.

Depression?....That's why they have syndicated TV shows. Get a life... not take one.

I feel bad for both, the families and the person. On one hand it is a bit of a selfish act , as the person is not thinking of who they will be leaving behind to deal with the suicide and there feelings.

 

On the other hand depression is a VERY powerful sickness. We don't know what this person was suffering from, either depression as a sickness or depression brought on by an event or a combination of events. Either way it is a loss of life, which in any case is a tragedy. Unfortunately he may have never seeked help or was to embarrased to do so.

the grape vine rumor is; the man was found by 2 kids walking by...thinking he needed help

they rolled him face up and saw half his face was missing..

from a shotgun blast...

Desperation is weakness. I understand its all opinion, but for someone to reach that point of desperation means they (regardless of their situation) made enough bad choices

 

So how does that theory hold up against the 13 year old we had two weeks ago? How many bad choices could a 13 year old make? You also left out the effects of the medication he was taking which may very well have influenced his decision to go forward with this choice.

 

It also doesn't cover those that I've dealt with that were the victims of a painful debilitating illness with no hope of recovery. That isn't a bad choice. It's life dealing you a really crappy hand.

 

Suicide is just too complicated to really understand why someone goes to that length. There are just too many variables involved, some which will never be known beyond the victim themselves.

So how does that theory hold up against the 13 year old we had two weeks ago? How many bad choices could a 13 year old make? You also left out the effects of the medication he was taking which may very well have influenced his decision to go forward with this choice.

 

It also doesn't cover those that I've dealt with that were the victims of a painful debilitating illness with no hope of recovery. That isn't a bad choice. It's life dealing you a really crappy hand.

 

Suicide is just too complicated to really understand why someone goes to that length. There are just too many variables involved, some which will never be known beyond the victim themselves.

Minors legally cannot do anything. However, the legal guardians are accountable for that minor until they emancipate or turn of age. The legal guardians are the ones who legally could have taken preventative actions.

 

As for life dealing you a crappy hand... maybe its because I base my principles on "never say quit" that I think people who actually believe that are a pile of BS. Call it fortitude... sure, dumb luck might force you to pick up the pieces at times, but you deal with it, and move forward. I'm sorry, I simply refuse to believe that absolutely NOTHING can be done, forcing a person to take their own life. That to me ranks right up there with cowardice, treason, and inaction.

You also left out the effects of the medication he was taking which may very well have influenced his decision to go forward with this choice.

 

 

Most antidepressants have warnings that it may contribute to suicidle thoughts in young adults and teens. Pretty scary :think:

I simply refuse to believe that absolutely NOTHING can be done, forcing a person to take their own life

 

Would you expect a victim to find a cure for the affliction taking their life and causing unbearable pain? Guess not. Or do you think it's the heroic thing to do by lying in bed in pain causing untold misery to your family who know they can do nothing for you.

 

The parents of the 13 year old? Do you seriously think that they knew medication would cause the child to hang himself? It's not like you get a lot of warning signs. Going by the warning signs? If so no one would take any medication.

 

Unless you have direct knowledge, you don;'t have much creditability. unfortunately, I have direct knowledge and I can tell you there are no warning signs in some cases.

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You also left out the effects of the medication he was taking which may very well have influenced his decision to go forward with this choice.

 

 

Most antidepressants have warnings that it may contribute to suicidle thoughts in young adults and teens. Pretty scary :think:

 

Yeah, go figure that one out! Makes ya think doesn't it ?

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the grape vine rumor is; the man was found by 2 kids walking by...thinking he needed help

they rolled him face up and saw half his face was missing..

from a shotgun blast...

 

Yes, that seems to be the chatter. Suprisingly, it did make a little news...

 

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2009 ... _self.html

 

And here is his obituary:

 

GLENN HRATKO

AGE: 46

FORMERLY OF FORDS

Glenn Hratko, 46, of Jackson, formerly of Fords, died Monday, Nov. 2, 2009. Born in Perth Amboy, he was raised in Fords and later moved to Howell then to Jackson. He was employed by Web Craft Tech, North Brunswick for over 27 years as a printer and supervisor.

He is survived by his children, Michael and Jenae Hratko of Howell; his parents, Michael and Arlene (nee Iorillo) Magner of Fords; a brother and sister-in-law, Wayne and Jill Hratko of Howell; a sister and brother-in-law, Karen and Renny Nunn of Marlton; a sister, Kathy Magner of Colonia; and his nephews and nieces, Philip, Nicole, Allie and Mikey.

Visiting will be from 2 to 4 p.m. and 7 to 9 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 5 at the Gustav J. Novak Funeral Home, 419 Barclay St., Perth Amboy. Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. Friday, Nov. 6 at the funeral home. Burial will be private.

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