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Good Deal on PMC .223

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Still no ammo or communication on my order that's been paid via M.O. since 12/7. Went to the post office and filed an inquiry on the money order. If it comes back that he's cashed it then I'll file mail fraud charges.

I put in an order for a case of PMC on 12/5. I called 2 times to get an update. The first time i was told my order would be shipping out the monday after i called. Pure BS as nothing happened. The second time i was told about the whole "we will ship all ordere before the new year. Sure enough i get the shipping notification but it sat there for10 days before they actually delivered to UPS. Eventually i got it 1/13 but at weeks after for something in-stock is just terrible. Frankly they are bold faced liars and devious businessmen and i hope they get thier metchant accts pulled and put out of business. the whole free ammo thing is crap. They quickly generated a ton of shipping notices and just sat on them to buy time. For those they forgot about, and qualify for "free ammo" i doubt they'll ever see a single round from them.

No refund as stated, not sure I'm going to push it since I got the ammo.

So here we are, 5 pages into this debacle. While I did not order any ammo from them, I am appalled by their business tactics. If they are so shady that they took in hundreds of peoples money with no stock or no intention of shipping in a timely fashion, they deserve to be put out of business. If they were, indeed, caught off guard by the volume, they probably do not belong in business either.

 

Posting on this and the many other boards affected by them does nothing. Those who bought with a CC and got burned should contact their CC companies right away and process a charge back request. Hopefully you will get resolution before these guys skip town!

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Hey Maks, have you tried calling? I got a hold of Mark almost every time I called. The couple of times I didn't, I left a message and he did call me back.

 

I feel bad that I posted this here and so many people had problems. I was pissed myself and told Mark that because he told me the order would go out within a couple of days and it took over a month.

 

I'm not complaining about 1000 rounds of PMC for $300 with shipping though, the previous 1000 rounds of PMC cost me $408 with tax.

Holy Cow, another reloader? Outstanding! We are all going to turn into range brass whores, hahahahaha

yes start reloading it is very satisfying

yes start reloading it is very satisfying

 

If the preacher says it, it must be true!!

Holy Cow, another reloader? Outstanding! We are all going to turn into range brass whores, hahahahaha

 

 

I already had the brass. =) Was waiting for a reason to reload.

 

No real reason to reload handgun calibers yet... but will for 308, and 7.62x54r.... I have still have some wolf gold left, so will be good enough.

 

I really want a swiss k11 or k31 though. lol.

Matt how many rounds have you loaded yet?

Matt how many rounds have you loaded yet?

 

None yet Joe, but I'm tumbling as we speak!!!

 

Press is suppose to be here by Wednesday!

 

Maks Tim pointed out a very valid point, at the prices we are getting for 7.62x54R and the quality of the ammo, it make sense to reload it yet. Plus unless you have a dead accurate gun, it also doesn't make sense to reload yet.

 

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Matt how many rounds have you loaded yet?

 

None yet Joe, but I'm tumbling as we speak!!!

 

Press is suppose to be here by Wednesday!

 

Maks Tim pointed out a very valid point, at the prices we are getting for 7.62x54R and the quality of the ammo, it make sense to reload it yet. Plus unless you have a dead accurate gun, it also doesn't make sense to reload yet.

 

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Not having to windex after every shoot is worth it. =) But I do want to know how much more accurate it is with reloads over surplus.

Every Shot? I thought we only had to do that at the end of the session? Maks, is a K11 going to be more accurate than the 19/30?

John, I meant after every shoot, not shot. =)

 

the consensus is the swiss are more accurate, and considering they haven't seen war..... :lol:

 

I just love the straight pull bolt. =)

On my first K31, I'm getting 1 MOA at 100 yards with surplus GP11 Stuff from the 70's. It's loaded to match specs and is non corrosive. (Non Re loadable though).

Finally received an email response last week after I sent them a 4th request for order status, and mentioned putting a trace on the money order, filing mail fraud charges, and filing a complaint with the Maine attorney general. Funny that they only responded to that email....

 

Today got a ship notice for the ammo with a tracking #, but it doesn't show up in the UPS system yet.

 

Hopefully my dealing with this joker is almost over.

Finally received an email response last week after I sent them a 4th request for order status, and mentioned putting a trace on the money order, filing mail fraud charges, and filing a complaint with the Maine attorney general. Funny that they only responded to that email....

 

Today got a ship notice for the ammo with a tracking #, but it doesn't show up in the UPS system yet.

 

Hopefully my dealing with this joker is almost over.

 

That is hopefully closer to the end. It means he put your order and printed a UPS sticker. Doesnt mean UPS picked it up. Tons of guys on Calguns have gotten those notifications and 2 weeks since still not picked up.

 

Paying by credit card helps, Chase already deposited the money back to my account, investigated it, and sent me a letter of final outcome.

 

I would hate to be TMJ when they get their letter stating that 50% of their credit card proceeds will be held back due to chargebacks.

...Paying by credit card helps, Chase already deposited the money back to my account, investigated it, and sent me a letter of final outcome....

 

Heh, I paid by money order with the intention to save him the CC merchant fee, back in the days when I thought he was doing the "gun community" a favor by offering the deals on ammo.

It took probably about 2 weeks after receiving the tracking number and it actually shipping.

Received a box from TMJ today.

 

I ordered: 10 boxes of 100 round Winchester "White Box" 9mm 115gr FMJ.

 

I received: 20 boxes of 50 round "American Eagle" manufactured by Federal 9mm 115gr FMJ.

 

Am I satisfied?: Yes.

 

Would I order from them again?: No way in hell.

Received a box from TMJ today.

 

I ordered: 10 boxes of 100 round Winchester "White Box" 9mm 115gr FMJ.

 

I received: 20 boxes of 50 round "American Eagle" manufactured by Federal 9mm 115gr FMJ.

 

Am I satisfied?: Yes.

 

Would I order from them again?: No way in hell.

 

 

You didnt even order 223? I guess he was low on all ammo. The big deal was on 223 and those folks are still waiting.

 

Did you order all federal ? any substitutions?

You didnt even order 223? I guess he was low on all ammo. The big deal was on 223 and those folks are still waiting.

 

Nope, my order was for 9mm only.

 

Did you order all federal ? any substitutions?

 

Heh, did you even read my post? No, I ordered all Winchester, I did not order any Federal.

 

I received all Federal, a 100% substitution for the Winchester. It's actually better quality (for this low end range of target rounds), so I'm not complaining about the substitution.

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