The police are not removing all of the dangers from the house by just collecting guns.

 

I can do more dramatic damage with a chain saw or a car or truck than with a gun.

This thread really did evolve into a good discussion. My only beef with confiscating weapons, is after the guns are taken, there are so many weapons left in the house, it does not make sense to me other than a political statement. They need to go into the kitchen and take the steak knives, butter knives, forks, carving knives, take the hammers and screw drivers out of the house, saws, plumbers wrenches, etc... It is all about a photo op

 

The police are not removing all of the dangers from the house, by just collecting guns. Just ask Reginald Denny what a brick can do.

 

 

You wouldnt get an argument from me.. the problem is that ANY discretion has been taken away from us by the courts when it comes to DV siezures of firearms. Conversely we have NO SAY in returnign them when the Order is either dropped or commuted by the courts. That is left entirely to the county Prosecutors who are slow at best, especially in the nothern counties (Bergen is one of the worst) and ZERO input is accepted from the PD's on that end.

I know KPD, in no way was I attempting to bash Officers personally, it was used in a generic sense. Lawyers have everyones hands tied and common sense has left the building.

I know KPD, in no way was I attempting to bash Officers personally, it was used in a generic sense. Lawyers have everyones hands tied and common sense has left the building.

 

 

if it wasnt so damn pathetic it would be almost funny, as just about every law that gets passed in this state goes to the Trial Lawyers Assn for "Review" and manages to come back chock-full of loopholes for the attorneys to use to circumvent it.

The police are not removing all of the dangers from the house by just collecting guns.

 

I can do more dramatic damage with a chain saw or a car or truck than with a gun.

Yes, I have seen you shoot :mrgreen:

The police are not removing all of the dangers from the house by just collecting guns.

 

I can do more dramatic damage with a chain saw or a car or truck than with a gun.

Yes, I have seen you shoot :mrgreen:

 

Where's that finga smiley??

Sorry Dan, I would not have been able to sleep tonight if I had let that one go.

I should add - but you haven't seen me use a chainsaw.

damage with a chain saw

 

Sadly a few weeks back a local using a chainsaw had it kick back and sliced open his neck killing him. It doesn't take much.

Are the higher ups really proud of that pic, like they stopped a terror cell. What a joke.

 

I think their is a different issue, the law is the law and the cops need to remove all the firearms. (I cant see bats, I can buy a new one, unless they start licensing them, esp the aluminum ones.) I think the problem is attorneys that file the TROs just as a strategic procedure. They are wasting everyone's (including the police and courts) time. I was doing a real estate closing for a man and he found out his wife cheated on him. I wanted to work it out contractually, instead he hired another attorney who told him to file a tro and use it to strong arm her into signing what he wanted. They seemed fine at the closing but she was 5ft 130lbs not really a threat esp since she didnt have acces to guns.

TIME LINE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WEAPONS SEIZURE

 

http://www.njicle.com/sample_content/DART170807s.pdf

 

Portion of article by BARRY J. SEREBNICK, ESQ.

Are the higher ups really proud of that pic

They rarely miss a photo op. Neither does a politician.

 

As far as bats or what is a weapon??? When that is actually determined, let me know. I know a lot of people asking the same question. I've seen some strange things come in as evidence though.

My boss was in a case where our client was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. In open court he told them prosecutor to shoot him in the ass if its so deadly. Acquital BTW.