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Thoughts on the Gen 4 Glocks

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Greetings,

 

I have an itch that needs to be scratched and that itch says Gen 4 Glock.

 

I've been following multiple threads on the Gen 4 Glocks. Have to say, the new Glock is really putting a tickle in my pants :dance: From all reports that I've read, it's supposed to be more comfortable using the built in backstrap (which I understand is SF sized), the mag release is supposed to be easier to get to, the new texturing is supposed to be better, and recoil management is supposed to be better w/ the new dual recoil spring. I understand the barrel, slide, frame, mag release assembly and recoil spring are different on the new models and are not interchangeable w/ the Gen 3 and previous. However, most of the rest of the internals are. Also, mags from Gen 3 and previous will work.

 

Some history - My 1st Glock was a G22 that I had purchased in '99 or so. I thought a 15 rnd .40 was bad ass. However, I quickly discovered that I wasn't that big of a fan of the recoil characteristics of the .40 in this gun, the finger grooves didn't work that well for me and on every shot, I'd have to reset since the gun would slip in my hands. I sold it and bought a used 2nd gen G19 a year or so later. I LOVE that pistol. Later I picked up a used 2nd gen G17 w/a trigger job. I can shoot that pistol as well as my Sig P226 on a good day (on slow fire, this would be 5 rounds into 1" at 15 yards), and can double tap / rapid fire it a lot easier than the Sig. This past May I picked up a 3rd Gen G19 w/ Austrian proofs. Really really like that pistol. Last Jan, I picked up an XD45 Tactical and XD9 Tactical. While I like the XD45 better than the XD9, neither of them did it for me. In wanted to try something different, I picked up a used M&P40 w/ night sights from the Bullet Hole last Dec. After working the trigger as per Dave Burwell's instructions (this took care of the crappy grittyness and gave a slightly lighter pull weight and slightly better reset), then added the Apex Tactical sear (this gave a dramaticaly lighter pull weight and much better reset). However................................. aside from HK plastic ( I have a USP45F that is my uber pistol, have handled a USP9C that I immediately fell in love with, and of course the HK45 and P30 are light years ahead of any pistol out there in terms of comfort), my favorite polymer is still the Glock. It just works for me.

 

So now the question is..... I have 2 permits I've been itching to use. One was going for a G26. I'm wondering if I should hold off and wait for the Gen 4 G26. I may try my hand at a G22 again. I'd love love love to get a G17, but the whole neutered to 10 rnd mags does not sit well with me. Any tips on how to convert G17 17 rnd mags to 15 rnds?

Greetings,

 

I have an itch that needs to be scratched and that itch says Gen 4 Glock.

 

I've been following multiple threads on the Gen 4 Glocks. Have to say, the new Glock is really putting a tickle in my pants :dance: From all reports that I've read, it's supposed to be more comfortable using the built in backstrap (which I understand is SF sized), the mag release is supposed to be easier to get to, the new texturing is supposed to be better, and recoil management is supposed to be better w/ the new dual recoil spring. I understand the barrel, slide, frame, mag release assembly and recoil spring are different on the new models and are not interchangeable w/ the Gen 3 and previous. However, most of the rest of the internals are. Also, mags from Gen 3 and previous will work.

 

Some history - My 1st Glock was a G22 that I had purchased in '99 or so. I thought a 15 rnd .40 was bad a**. However, I quickly discovered that I wasn't that big of a fan of the recoil characteristics of the .40 in this gun, the finger grooves didn't work that well for me and on every shot, I'd have to reset since the gun would slip in my hands. I sold it and bought a used 2nd gen G19 a year or so later. I LOVE that pistol. Later I picked up a used 2nd gen G17 w/a trigger job. I can shoot that pistol as well as my Sig P226 on a good day (on slow fire, this would be 5 rounds into 1" at 15 yards), and can double tap / rapid fire it a lot easier than the Sig. This past May I picked up a 3rd Gen G19 w/ Austrian proofs. Really really like that pistol. Last Jan, I picked up an XD45 Tactical and XD9 Tactical. While I like the XD45 better than the XD9, neither of them did it for me. In wanted to try something different, I picked up a used M&P40 w/ night sights from the Bullet Hole last Dec. After working the trigger as per Dave Burwell's instructions (this took care of the crappy grittyness and gave a slightly lighter pull weight and slightly better reset), then added the Apex Tactical sear (this gave a dramaticaly lighter pull weight and much better reset). However................................. aside from HK plastic ( I have a USP45F that is my uber pistol, have handled a USP9C that I immediately fell in love with, and of course the HK45 and P30 are light years ahead of any pistol out there in terms of comfort), my favorite polymer is still the Glock. It just works for me.

 

So now the question is..... I have 2 permits I've been itching to use. One was going for a G26. I'm wondering if I should hold off and wait for the Gen 4 G26. I may try my hand at a G22 again. I'd love love love to get a G17, but the whole neutered to 10 rnd mags does not sit well with me. Any tips on how to convert G17 17 rnd mags to 15 rnds?

 

Rauch- The only Gen 4 I've seen so far was the G22. I have no idea if and when other Gen 4s will appear. Agreed the Gen 3 G22 was snappy. I believe the Gen 4 was introduced to accomodate the different hand sizes and opened up more of the market as others had interchangeable back straps. The recoil spring system in my opinion was just a bonus because it was snappy.

 

As far as modding the 17rd mags for Jersey... Just be careful. I've actually been looking at putting a plus two on a 10 rd mag. BTW the 10rd G17 Mags are single stack if that means anything to ya.

Those single stack 10 round clips are good for 8 rounds without using a mag loader.

Those single stack 10 round clips are good for 8 rounds without using a mag loader.

 

I'm a wus I always use a mag loading tool :(

 

What's a clip? Garands have clips. :clap:

I just got a G22 Gen4 in and the recoil spring is very strong. It is a great improvement.

 

 

Where can I get one, and how much?

Me. $530

 

That's why I like you Paul, quick with the answers!

PM on the way (not for the Glock, though)

 

So now the question is..... I have 2 permits I've been itching to use. One was going for a G26. I'm wondering if I should hold off and wait for the Gen 4 G26. I may try my hand at a G22 again. I'd love love love to get a G17, but the whole neutered to 10 rnd mags does not sit well with me. Any tips on how to convert G17 17 rnd mags to 15 rnds?

 

 

I have, what I believe to be, a Gen 3 G22. It was produced in 2004 so Im not too sure gen 2 -gen 3. I shoot at BA all the time if your willing to make the trip down I would be more then happy to let you shoot it. Good luck with the search!

 

-Scott

From GlockTalk >

-Gen 1,

--generation smooth grip no finger grooves no rails (G17 and G19 only)

-Gen 2,

--generation textured grip no finger grooves no rails

-Gen 2.5,

--finger grooves added but still no rails (G20 and G21 only)

-Gen 3,

--finger grooves accessory rails added (Third locking block pins were added to the G17 and G19 midway through this Gen)

-Gen 3 RTF2,

--optional texture and slide serration option, small pointed pyramids

-Gen 4,

--interchangeable backstraps, improved recoil rod, new grip texture

 

Note: Early G26 and G27 had no front strap checkering but did have front finger groove humps. Some argue these are Gen 2.5 but they were sold at the same time as the full and mid-sized Gen 2. They got front strap checkering between the grooves at the same time the Gen 3 full and mid-sized guns emerged. The G30 and G29 also had no rail well into the 3rd generation period but added the rail about 3 years later. I would say they are all Gen 3.

Greetings,

 

I have an itch that needs to be scratched and that itch says Gen 4 Glock.

 

I've been following multiple threads on the Gen 4 Glocks. Have to say, the new Glock is really putting a tickle in my pants :dance: From all reports that I've read, it's supposed to be more comfortable using the built in backstrap (which I understand is SF sized), the mag release is supposed to be easier to get to, the new texturing is supposed to be better, and recoil management is supposed to be better w/ the new dual recoil spring. I understand the barrel, slide, frame, mag release assembly and recoil spring are different on the new models and are not interchangeable w/ the Gen 3 and previous. However, most of the rest of the internals are. Also, mags from Gen 3 and previous will work.

 

Some history - My 1st Glock was a G22 that I had purchased in '99 or so. I thought a 15 rnd .40 was bad a**. However, I quickly discovered that I wasn't that big of a fan of the recoil characteristics of the .40 in this gun, the finger grooves didn't work that well for me and on every shot, I'd have to reset since the gun would slip in my hands. I sold it and bought a used 2nd gen G19 a year or so later. I LOVE that pistol. Later I picked up a used 2nd gen G17 w/a trigger job. I can shoot that pistol as well as my Sig P226 on a good day (on slow fire, this would be 5 rounds into 1" at 15 yards), and can double tap / rapid fire it a lot easier than the Sig. This past May I picked up a 3rd Gen G19 w/ Austrian proofs. Really really like that pistol. Last Jan, I picked up an XD45 Tactical and XD9 Tactical. While I like the XD45 better than the XD9, neither of them did it for me. In wanted to try something different, I picked up a used M&P40 w/ night sights from the Bullet Hole last Dec. After working the trigger as per Dave Burwell's instructions (this took care of the crappy grittyness and gave a slightly lighter pull weight and slightly better reset), then added the Apex Tactical sear (this gave a dramaticaly lighter pull weight and much better reset). However................................. aside from HK plastic ( I have a USP45F that is my uber pistol, have handled a USP9C that I immediately fell in love with, and of course the HK45 and P30 are light years ahead of any pistol out there in terms of comfort), my favorite polymer is still the Glock. It just works for me.

 

So now the question is..... I have 2 permits I've been itching to use. One was going for a G26. I'm wondering if I should hold off and wait for the Gen 4 G26. I may try my hand at a G22 again. I'd love love love to get a G17, but the whole neutered to 10 rnd mags does not sit well with me. Any tips on how to convert G17 17 rnd mags to 15 rnds?

 

 

I too have had this itch.... :shock:

Greetings,

 

I have an itch that needs to be scratched and that itch says Gen 4 Glock.

 

I've been following multiple threads on the Gen 4 Glocks. Have to say, the new Glock is really putting a tickle in my pants :dance: From all reports that I've read, it's supposed to be more comfortable using the built in backstrap (which I understand is SF sized), the mag release is supposed to be easier to get to, the new texturing is supposed to be better, and recoil management is supposed to be better w/ the new dual recoil spring. I understand the barrel, slide, frame, mag release assembly and recoil spring are different on the new models and are not interchangeable w/ the Gen 3 and previous. However, most of the rest of the internals are. Also, mags from Gen 3 and previous will work.

 

Some history - My 1st Glock was a G22 that I had purchased in '99 or so. I thought a 15 rnd .40 was bad a**. However, I quickly discovered that I wasn't that big of a fan of the recoil characteristics of the .40 in this gun, the finger grooves didn't work that well for me and on every shot, I'd have to reset since the gun would slip in my hands. I sold it and bought a used 2nd gen G19 a year or so later. I LOVE that pistol. Later I picked up a used 2nd gen G17 w/a trigger job. I can shoot that pistol as well as my Sig P226 on a good day (on slow fire, this would be 5 rounds into 1" at 15 yards), and can double tap / rapid fire it a lot easier than the Sig. This past May I picked up a 3rd Gen G19 w/ Austrian proofs. Really really like that pistol. Last Jan, I picked up an XD45 Tactical and XD9 Tactical. While I like the XD45 better than the XD9, neither of them did it for me. In wanted to try something different, I picked up a used M&P40 w/ night sights from the Bullet Hole last Dec. After working the trigger as per Dave Burwell's instructions (this took care of the crappy grittyness and gave a slightly lighter pull weight and slightly better reset), then added the Apex Tactical sear (this gave a dramaticaly lighter pull weight and much better reset). However................................. aside from HK plastic ( I have a USP45F that is my uber pistol, have handled a USP9C that I immediately fell in love with, and of course the HK45 and P30 are light years ahead of any pistol out there in terms of comfort), my favorite polymer is still the Glock. It just works for me.

 

So now the question is..... I have 2 permits I've been itching to use. One was going for a G26. I'm wondering if I should hold off and wait for the Gen 4 G26. I may try my hand at a G22 again. I'd love love love to get a G17, but the whole neutered to 10 rnd mags does not sit well with me. Any tips on how to convert G17 17 rnd mags to 15 rnds?

 

 

I too have had this itch.... and I just reached out and scratched it:shock:

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So now the question is..... I have 2 permits I've been itching to use. One was going for a G26. I'm wondering if I should hold off and wait for the Gen 4 G26. I may try my hand at a G22 again. I'd love love love to get a G17, but the whole neutered to 10 rnd mags does not sit well with me. Any tips on how to convert G17 17 rnd mags to 15 rnds?

 

 

I have, what I believe to be, a Gen 3 G22. It was produced in 2004 so Im not too sure gen 2 -gen 3. I shoot at BA all the time if your willing to make the trip down I would be more then happy to let you shoot it. Good luck with the search!

 

-Scott

 

Hi Scott,

 

Thanks for the offer, but I'm going to wait on the Gen 4's. I had a 3rd gen G22 that didn't really work for me. I'm really curious to see if the Gen 4's would change my perception of the G22. I really really want to give the GSSF a try this summer and I think a 9mm won't be ideal. Thinking I'm either going to go w/ a Gen 4 G22 or G21.

No problem! Good luck and let us know how the Gen 4 feels and handles if & when you shoot it! I hope it works out better then your original G22.

 

_Scott

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